#grateful

Seems you have trouble comprehending.

I asked three questions and you only answered one.

Your answer that ICAHD is comprised of "all Jew" is "based on the videos (Jews speaking in Hebrew along with other articles)"

Has it ever occurred to you that 1.2 million Arabs living in Israel speak Hebrew and a large number of Arabs living in the West Bank and Gaza speak Hebrew too? Maybe some of those speaking Hebrew on the videos were in fact Arabs.

What motivated you to say members of ICHAD were "all Jews" when you had no substantive evidence to back your claim? Why was it important for you to make such a statement at all? Why not just refer to "ICHAD" without adding the rider that they were "all Jews"?

Before you make any statement be sure you have the source to substantiate what you write - no matter how trivial or insignificant it might seem.

When can I expect an answer to the remaining two unanswered questions:

1. Do you agree that Jewish as well as Arab unauthorized structures are being demolished in the light of the authority I gave you?

2. Do you agree that some Arab construction permits are being approved?

I also note that what you "thought" about the 70/30 proportion of Arabs and Jews living in East Jerusalem now needs to be "verified".

When you have "verified" your statement please let us all in on the source and which group - the Arabs or the Jews - is the larger proportion.

Again it is a pity you make a statement such as this before verifying it to be correct. To be fair to you at least you qualified this statement to be a thought only.

However readers are not necessarily that discerning and pick up statements such as this believing it to be factually accurate when really it is nothing more than a thought.

To anyone following this protracted correspondence please be wary of OLO posters writing anything they cannot substantiate

I detect two absurd suggestions in your reponce which indicates that you are clutching at straws

Firstly, I responded to your questions with the following

QUOTE Regarding the demolition of structures and permits the true test is a comparison between the proportion of the population that is Jewish and non-Jewish (i cann't use the term Arab because according to you it includes Jews and calithumpians) with

i) the proportion of permits issued
ii) proportion of council funds received for things like water sewerage
iii) anything you'd like to add?

According to you there is no discrimination. If this were so then i think we can both agree that we'd expect to find these proportions to be roughly similar to the proportion of population. Otherwise, we would have evidence to support discrimination.
QUOTE

However, you appear to reject this method of testing your claim of no discrimination and prefer to argue that as long as it is shown that some settlements have been pulled down and some permits have been issued to Palestinians there is no discrimination.

This of course is not an approach that any statistician would endorse (i know some statistics) and i'm fairly confident you would be aware of this. This is the first absurdity.

As for the second absurd suggestion:

If you want to argue that the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions is not organised by Jews living in Israel then the onous is obviously on you to provide the evidence. You haven't provided any evidence.

Instead you have proposed that it is Israeli Arabs masquerading as Jews who have put up the web site with all the material and videos, along with the speaking tours to U.S. by Jeff Harper (http://www.icahd.org/eng/). Take a bit of time to watch their videos and see how extraordinarily talented these Arabs are as disguising themselves and their accents.

If in fact you were confident in your claim that there is no discrimination you would have actually embrace the approach i have suggested. It is a standard approach for testing for discrimination.

cont...

Your reaction reinforces my view that you are in fact complicit in actions which leaves our fellow human beings homeless and traumatised

But one more chance:

Do you accept my suggestion for testing whether or not there is discrimination?

Or do you want to plead guilty and do your time...you'll come out as better person.

Mr Singer,
You mention Palestinian unauthorised building on The West Bank, but that news never appears in the mainstream media to my knowledge.
http://tinyurl.com/yzvr58p
Kind Regards,
HK

# grateful

You are going from bad to worse.

Please answer the following questions that I now pose for the FOURTH time

1. Do you agree that Jewish as well as Arab unauthorized structures are being demolished in the light of the authority I gave you?

2. Do you agree that some Arab construction permits are being approved?

Don't you have the words "Yes" or "No" in your vocabulary? Why do you continue writing 300 words of drivel not answering these rather simple questions when you can use just one or both of these words to answer them. If you feel the need to qualify your answer then do so.

I will deal with your queries after you have answered the above - and after you have also verified or withdraw your 70/30 claim regarding the proportion of Jews/Arabs living in East Jerusalem.

I find your view - that I have to disprove that ICHAD is not composed of "all Jews" before you produce your evidence that says they all are - a very strange thought process indeed.

Like the 70/30 claim I am not prepared to accept your statements unless you have the substantive evidence to prove that what you say is factually correct.

You may have guessed I am not prepared to accept what you say at face value unless you back up your statements with a reliable source.

So put up or shut up.

#Klein

The following is taken from Tony Blair's web site [http://www.tonyblairoffice.org/quartet/pages/key-issues/] and sets out the facts in a fairly unbiased way:

"Area C

Israel retains full security and civil control in what’s called “Area C”, land comprising 60 percent of the territory in the West Bank - under the Israeli-Palestinian Interim Agreement reached in 1995, the West Bank was divided into Areas A, B and C, with specific administrative and security responsibilities assigned to the Palestinian and Israeli authorities in each. The Government of Israel (GoI) must therefore approve any proposed economic development in Area C. Palestinians may not develop Area C, nor make plans to do so, without the GoI’s permission. Demolitions of unauthorised structures continue, as does GoI expropriation of land. Palestinian access to agricultural land is severely restricted. Opportunities to develop tourism on the Dead Sea coast cannot be exploited. The Office of the Quartet Representative makes the arguments for a series of measures designed to promote economic development, improve infrastructure, and increase freedom of movement and access to land, in order to support effective development in Area C and help build the foundations of the future Palestinian State."

What Blair omits to say is that only 5% of the Arab population of the West Bank live in this 60% of the West Bank.

Anyone travelling to the West Bank would have seen this area resembling the vast moonscape met by Neil Armstrong.

It is however a highly strategic area whose sovereignty remains as yet undetermined and is the location of most of the Israeli settlements established since 1967. Parts of it will certainly be retained by Israel in any final status negotiations to provide Israel with "secure and recognized boundaries" under Security Council Resolution 242