I see what you are trying to say. A bit like..

14 May 1948 - Arabs living in British Mandate of Palestine change their name from colonial British subjects to second class non-Jewish Israeli citizens.

Why are you constantly trying to wipe Palestine off the map? You really are an insidious character.

At midnight on May 14, 1948, 648000 Jewish residents living in Palestine became "Israelis".
Whats you're point? Aside from monumental hypocrisy?

Not to mention be careful what you wish for Mr singer. Instead of Jordan subduing and controlling the Palestinians whats to say the Palestinians would not inflame and incite the Jordanians. Then you would have made things much worse for Israel.

Your simplistic wishful thinking is no substitute for justice and freedom. Stop stealing peoples land and give the Palestinians the freedom to have the country they want. Where they want it and where they already live.

Mr Singer,
I suggest you spend a bit more time reading the history of the mandate and how the Jews helped the Brits to divide and destroy the various attempts for Palestinian nationhood during that time, you so conveniently ignore.

Face it, Israel has no moral right to maintain it's hold over the west bank.

Claiming it has for security purposes is the height of colonial arrogance. When clearly the insecurity is a consequence of Israel's own doing i.e. it's collective inane claim to sole occupancy of the land it now calls Israel and conquered lands. Much less the claims of all Palestine by the extremists' who have disproportionate power in the Israeli parliament. Not forgetting the 2nd class citizenship of the Arabs in Israel. (Shades of pogroms.)

Notwithstanding the reality is Israel exists. However, It has no moral/legal right beyond the 1948 boundaries.

Such spurious propaganda as this article clearly is, offends or should offend the sensibilities all Australians.

In short *your* war is *your* doing, don't bring it here.

LOL David Singer,

You really do enjoy flogging dead horses.

--The Hashemite monarchy considers itself well rid of the Palestinians. In case you hadn't noticed, it doesn't want them.

--King Abdullah has shown no sign of wanting to re-incorporate the West Bank – or have I missed something?

--The Palestinians have evinced no desire to become part of Jordan again

--Nobody has shown any interest in forcing Abdullah to re-incorporate the West bank

So how, pray, is your plan – I use the word loosely – to proceed?

Anyway, none of this is relevant. The worldwide Muslim Ummah, 23% of humanity and growing, will never accede to the existence of a Jewish enclave in Dar ul Islam. And it is preposterous to pretend that this will not influence the behaviour of Muslim governments. A leader who defeats Israel will be a "hero for life" in the Muslim world.

Look how the Shia, Narallah, won kudos even among Sunnis simply because Hizbullah survived an Israeli attack and managed to kill 43 Israeli soldiers.

Also, in case you had not noticed, the Ummah is infected with a genocidal strain of Jew hatred. Muslims are a heterogenous bunch often as likely to kill each other as to pray together. But one thing that unites them is hatred of Jews and a determination to destroy Israel. To achieve these goals it’s a case of "WHATEVER IT TAKES".

So it's war to the death. THAT IS THE REALITY. There does not appear to be any way of altering it.

My usual disclaimer. I am NOT going to debate the rights and wrongs of the situation

# Dane

You state:

"Why are you constantly trying to wipe Palestine off the map?"

Palestine was wiped off the map when 78% of it became the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan in 1946 (now Jordan), 17% of it became Israel in 1948 and 5% was unified with Jordan in 1948.

# Mikk

The PLO tried to overthrow King Hussein in 1970 and paid a heavy price for failure. If the PLO or Hamas wish to try again that is their decision - and they will rue it in my opinion.

My proposal might well be a problem for Israel- but they have overcome before and they will do so again if the existence of Israel is threatened. They do have a peace treaty with Jordan and I am sure would do everything to maintain that Treaty with Jordan's Hashemite rulers.

# Examinator

You state:

"Face it, Israel has no moral right to maintain it's hold over the west bank.

Claiming it has for security purposes is the height of colonial arrogance.....

However, It has no moral/legal right beyond the 1948 boundaries."

Israel has not only a moral right - but also a legal right to reconstitute the Jewish National Home in the West Bank pursuant to the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine and article 80 of the United Nations Charter.

Security Council Resolution 242 only requires Israel to withdraw to "secure and recognized boundaries" not from the entirety of the West Bank.

What you refer to as the "1948 boundaries" are only armistice lines.

I suggest the value of your contribution to any discussion is greatly diminished when you misstate the facts

#stevenlmeyer

We have been down this track before.

For you "Its war to the death"

This may well be the outcome. However I would prefer trying to work for a negotiated settlement before such a dreaded eventuality occurs. Wouldn't you?

The unification of the major part of the West Bank with Jordan will become a diplomatic option when flogging the two-state solution is abandoned. Once that occurs it may happen much sooner than you think.

steven
I think you are going too far here. To say that every muslim is a rabid jew hater who wont stop until israel is destroyed is extremely disingenuous and more than a bit racist. Israel drives what hated there is and furthers the cause and appeal of the extremists by its unjust actions in the occupied territories.

Walls that cut people off from their land and families. Burgeoning settlements full of rabid extremist jews who would happily commit genocide and regularly abuse their arab neighbors. A country crisscrossed with roads for the exclusive use of jewish israelis. The few roads left for the arabs to use blocked by abusive troops and checkpoints. Major military attacks on civilian areas as seen in Gaza.
Destruction of homes and even whole towns by the military bulldozers. The unequal allocation of water resources. Mossad running round like an organised crime gang.

Like I said before a pox on all you f ing godbotherers and your ideologys of hate and death. You are all f ed in the head and should be locked in mental asylums until you are not a threat to the rest of us. You are all to blame. All religions are to blame. If you support any religion or magical imaginary friend then you are also supporting all these evil murderous terrorists that actually pull the trigger or press the button or administer the poison. Religion is dangerous and ridiculous and if humankind cant free itself from the clutches of superstition and hate then we are doomed to a future much like our past. Full of misery, injustice, horror and backwardness.\

Why wont you debate the rights and wrongs steven. Have you not heard the saying "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. Which seems to be your position. Do nothing.

I still say the way to alter the situation is get rid of religion, a concerted effort by others to pressure israel to behave decently and improvement in the lot of all arabs through education and aid from the rest of us.