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Land of opportunity, but not for monoculturalists : Comments

By Rachel Woodlock, published 17/2/2010

While young Muslim Australians can positively appreciate Australia as a land of opportunity, Ms Pauline Hanson cannot.

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Lucy,

You do realise that you are calling for a Ponzi scheme. Those large numbers of young people that you want us to bring in (or grow ourselves) to look after the old people are not immune from aging and cannot be deported when they have outlived their value to the economy. What happens when they also need pensions and health care? When does the population growth stop?

Pauline Hanson was uneducated and said a number of things that were silly or prejudiced, but no more so than some other politicians, such as Ross Lightfoot or Graeme Campbell, the former Labor MP and founder of the Australia First party. She was attacked essentially because of her opposition to the globalisation (and mass migration) agenda as pushed by elites in the Anglosphere countries. A lot of the hysteria about her was because globalisation isn't all wonderful for ordinary people in developed countries and she gave people an avenue for protest. See this graph from the US for example.

http://lanekenworthy.net/2008/03/09/the-best-inequality-graph/

and this graph showing the share of national income going to the top 1% in several countries since 1900. Note for the US that there was essentially zero net immigration from 1924 to 1965.

http://clubtroppo.com.au/2006/08/24/policy-and-perhaps-culture-matter-for-income-distribution/

She was jailed with a massively disproportionate 3 year sentence on a technicality of election law that she didn't even try to cover up. I was surprised at the time that Amnesty International never took up her case as a political prisoner, as they did with Albert Langer earlier. It would hardly be surprising if she did want to leave Australia.
Posted by Divergence, Friday, 19 February 2010 4:23:02 PM
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Jayb

For starters, I think that the massive amount of immigration of the past decade is in part thanks to Pauline. Politics should be about what is best for the country and its people, not division and hatred. She took away the focus on the legitimate reasons for fewer immigrants, most notably the large infrastructure cost. The massive amount of government debt is a very real legacy of the mass immigration odyssey. People calling for greater immigration need to be challenged about the infrastructure costs for all the extra people. The first response to critics is the redneck racist allegation. Yes, it is an illogical response, but an effective on thanks to Pauline.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 19 February 2010 5:29:16 PM
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"you might not be a racist, but if you look at what you wrote it could be read as an endorsement of Hanson"
David, I might be a racist, whatever that term means, but how what I wrote could be interpreted as endorsing Ms Hanson's views escapes me. Even my sparring partner CJ could see I was presenting what I think Ms Hanson's views on immigration would be today. And CJ can spot a "racist" ten miles away.
Posted by blairbar, Saturday, 20 February 2010 5:33:35 AM
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But thats the whole point. CJ knows you. He's seen your posts before. I don't know you from a bar of soap so I just read it the way it was written. My apologies if you took offence.

Ozzie at the risk of feeding the troll - do you know that bogan is sometimes used as a racist term for white working class people? I'm not ashamed of being either. At least I grew up to be a lawyer. What exactly is it that you do again? apart from trolling?
Posted by Lucy Montgomery, Saturday, 20 February 2010 10:05:27 AM
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Dear Lucy
I was not offended by your remarks just surprised that from reading my comments a lawyer could think that somehow I supported the views of Ms Hanson.
"bogan is sometimes used as a racist term for white working class people"
Since you use the adjective frequently, perhaps you could enlighten me and other contributors by defining precisely what you mean by "racist". And show how the word "bogan", "bevan" in Qld, has racist overtones.
Posted by blairbar, Saturday, 20 February 2010 12:05:27 PM
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Lucy; At least I grew up to be a lawyer.

WOW! Admitting that you are a Lawyer. That takes guts. Given their woeful reputation.

Divergence; She was jailed with a massively disproportionate 3 year sentence on a technicality of election law that she didn't even try to cover up.

Yep. A Lawyer caused it. The Lawyer got away with it & the scapegoat went to jail for it. All predetermined by Lawyers.

Blairbar; "bogan is sometimes used as a racist term for white working class people"

Wouldn't just calling someone a Bogan be racist act?

Blairbar; I was presenting what I think Ms Hanson's views on immigration would be today.

Hanson wasn't against immigration, just Boat people or illegal immigrants.

Fester; Politics should be about what is best for the country and its people, not division and hatred. She took away the focus on the legitimate reasons for fewer immigrants, most notably the large infrastructure cost.

No the media did that with the backing of the big two Political Parties. It looked like some real competition so they had to do something to eliminate that at any cost.

You know, it's not hard to tell that the posters here got their information via the media. Did any of you actually look & read her policies? My bet. No.
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 20 February 2010 2:28:22 PM
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