""You know there is nothing stopping the menz organizations from creating their own adverts and putting them up for consideration.""

To counter a $73 million Government advertising effort paid for from expropriated taxpayer funds?

Perhaps we can appeal to the Office for the Status of Men for a bit of help.

Whoops. There isn't one.

Amfortas: <"Perhaps we can appeal to the Office for the Status of Men for a bit of help.

Whoops. There isn't one.">

No, instead there's a whole male dominated polity. Mind you, when we have a female Prime Minister and a dominance of State Premiers who are female; and a greater number of women sitting up in parliament you'll be able to make an excellent case for obtaining an Office for the Status of Men. You'll have my full support as well :)

It is not surprising you call yourself Pynchme. Someone needs to.

So, a 'male dominated' (read, men step up to do the jobs women won't do) polity - no doubt an oppressive, chauvinistic, anti-female mob - has created an Office for the Status of Women, bent on marginalising, villifying and demeaning men. Explain that one to us.

But if we eventually get women stepping up to the plate (as Margaret Thatcher did all those years ago) and become Prime Minister, dominating the polity, we can expect them to aid men with an Office devoted to men's advacement.

Pull the other one.

And pynchme when when all this comes to pass.

By the way, when you have broken through the imaginary Glass Ceiling, pick up a shovel and join the chaps in the real glass cellar.

Amfortas: <"By the way, when you have broken through the imaginary Glass Ceiling, pick up a shovel and join the chaps in the real glass cellar.">

Would that be the same glass cellar where women work for nix?

You know, doing all that unimportant stuff like caring for kiddies, disabled and elderly folk ?

Sok Amfortas - We can bat this back and forth ad nauseum. Do you really think it's worth going over all this old stuff again? I don't mind if you insist - but really, don't we have better ways to spend our time?

(I think we know each other's arguments pretty well don't we?)

I rather like you - I'd prefer a truce for now if you can swing it.

Truce, Pynchme?

OK.

But I will search for the stats on child-care workers dying in industrial accidents like miners do. No, that would be a waste of time.

I won't argue with you because that's a waste of time too.

PS.

I rather like you too.

:)