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Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 2 June 2019 11:08:01 AM
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CM with respect, not sure you are aware but in defending the Mad ego Donald Trump, you tell me you are a victim
See he uses folk like you, he could not careless about you, but uses you to hide the fact he is, and always was,a fraud Every day that passes is one day closer to his down fall,you may brand it fake news but again victims are often blind Posted by Belly, Sunday, 2 June 2019 1:01:04 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/unions-opt-out-of-backing-nsw-alp-leadership-candidate-20190602-p51tpx.html
Again thread that seems to have had its time But the link, while giving ammo to my opponents is starkly highlighting Labors job ahead Unions gave birth to Labor, even the then future great man Whilam, had to front the NSW right union boss Charly Oliver [AWU] to get permission to lead Looking back? dark days for both my party and union control of it We have every right to think those days are over But we rank and file get to vote for our leaders, IF it is a contested ballot In the Shorten V Albo one,six years ago, we elected Albo, The party machine? overruled us The NSW leadership is contested, we are being flooded with reasons to vote for each of two Albo, the ALP must know, the child of the union movement has grown up, left home long ago, it needs no control by other than the voters it must win back Posted by Belly, Monday, 3 June 2019 7:23:35 AM
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Belly said -
Albo, the ALP must know, the child of the union movement has grown up, left home long ago, it needs no control by other than the voters it must win back Answer- It's the party that votes for the pre-selection not the voters. I once thought too that the unions had too much power within the movement. But at least the people in the industries felt that they had some connection with the party. Now the party has moved too far to the Socialist side. Those within the party will die for their beliefs rather than submit- perhaps this will be the death of the Labor Party. The pre-selection need to be replaced and in order for this to occur the members need to be replaced. Posted by Canem Malum, Monday, 3 June 2019 6:43:11 PM
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The Liberal Party has the same problem with its
pre-selection. The party makes the choices, not its members. I know, we've been stuck with the same old coot for decades. What about Pauline Hanson's candidates? Doesn't she choose who runs? She's the party! Posted by Foxy, Monday, 3 June 2019 7:09:39 PM
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Canem you are in part right but Foxy is very much so too
See in threads like this my effort is to highlight Labor and its needs, I could, in post after post, warn the Liberals share most of my highlighted concerns Labor? it is a very real truth, depending on your age you may or not know about the faceless men It was in the 1950,s and 60,s a truth used against us constantly See we did do as those faceless, [a play on the fact few knew them,] men from the union movement Whitlam bought change,but not the end of faceless men/Caucus, they exist still Not as powerful but exist I cannot defend my party's candidate selection process It produces office managers,bottom lickers, and a few real gems, but never ever a grass roots worker I long for that type of honesty here from a conservative My sure and certain knowing my views are shared by many in my party, that our humiliating defeats, in state and federal, are the fuel for another great reform storm in my party, makes me happy A purely union controlled ALP can never rule this country, just as one that ignores unions does not deserve to rule Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 7:56:40 AM
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You asked;
"Do you think your criticism of Donald Trump is going to lead to your assassination of the US President?"
Well firstly I would have had to claim he was an existential threat, along the lines of "it doesn't seem like we will survive".
I haven't, but you have used those words.
What you have written marks you as a deluded nutter. Why shouldn't you be on a watch list? Do you own or have easy access to firearms?