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Labors task ahead

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cont'd ...

I may be dreadfully wrong but I don't believe
that Trump will win the next election. Then
of course I didn't think he'd win either.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 June 2019 4:26:01 PM
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This is interesting in reference to Foxy's comment on the 1950's-

Also references to "Red Trotskyist Communists" (sic) - is a bit of a concern. It Smacks of the mentality of the 1950s and the fear campaigns that existed then- and were used for political advantage.

Link-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitrokhin_Archive

From the Mitrokhin Archives it appears that the Anti-Red campaigns of the 50's perhaps weren't just about fear- perhaps it's also true in the current era- a Communist by another name is a Communist- as is a rose- but I leave it to the reader to exercise their judgement- that is the hope of the world that people will see the truth. Given Foxy's previous comments (by her husband on her behalf from memory) about her experiences with the Communists in Lithuania you would think that she would have more respect for 50's mentality.

The truth is often illusive- there are paradoxes, subtleties, red herrings, dead ends, multiple truths- like Michelangelo's ceiling it can be agony and ecstasy. Seek and you will find...

"Liz Coleman" says that there is no good or evil but different types of good- it's an interesting point- even though I might not completely agree.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 1 June 2019 9:50:47 PM
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The Labor party has lost its way- it is no longer about the workers. I can understand that many semi-retirees on this forum may not be aware of the erosion of the workplace- especially for young people- under the Labor party's watch. Some perhaps are doing better- such as those in the building industry- at least for the time being- under the current arrangements. The loss of union power within the Labor party since Simon Crean and the seeming infiltration of the unions by Socialists is instructive. It seems that with the loss of union membership and financial support the union core has imploded like a black hole leaving a shell and hiding a core of political Marxist Trotskyist Socialists- similar to The Greens and their Watermelon's.

The Labor Party and the unions themselves still claim a grassroots base with Australian Workers but an analysis of their actions or lack of action leads me to different conclusions.
Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 1 June 2019 10:18:33 PM
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This is great news for the conservatives,

I look forward to another decade of conservative government. As long as Left whingers continue to blame Rupert, big business, and anyone other than themselves, labor and the greens will continue playing to their ever shrinking base.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 2 June 2019 5:02:55 AM
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Shadow Minister said-

This is great news for the conservatives,
I look forward to another decade of conservative government. As long as Left whingers continue to blame Rupert, big business, and anyone other than themselves, labor and the greens will continue playing to their ever shrinking base.

Answer-

Yes it is. Hopefully Traditional Conservative groups can remind Australia and the western world of some of the values of the 50's of Foxy's youth that she seems to deride so much.

This involves an attempt to move and perhaps "widen" the "Overton Window" of public discourse without falling into the abyss of Nihilism. Socialist forces appear to have successfully managed public discourse (and the Overton Window). Virtue Signalling, Political Correctness, the dominance of media, Hollywood, workplace HR by socialist groups and principles seem to have conspired to dominate public discourse.

In certain cases we have seen a split between "the Media and Entertainment Industry" and "The Public"- notable cases appear to have been the "surprise" election of US President Donald Trump and the election of Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison. The Media and Entertainment Industry has often been also promoted as reflecting the grassroots values of the community- but they have been shown at least in certain cases to be astro-turf. Perhaps as the M&E Industry is disrupted by online sources the expertise is being hollowed out in similar ways to the Labor/ Greens Party's and the Union's and left with a core of Socialist Ideologues (if you were a Capitalist Ideologue you wouldn't hang around with declining wages and opportunities)- this seems to be an international trend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

Though we need to be on guard against hostile black grey and white propaganda from the communists. It's easy to underestimate the power of propaganda- I need to finish Edward Bernays book on Propaganda one day- also Plato's Rhetoric- though pretty boring- is probably also instructive on the art of propaganda- another book half finished.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_propaganda

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/plato-rhetoric
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 2 June 2019 8:12:14 AM
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The ABC and SBS are also big propaganda threats to Traditional White Australian culture in their insidious Communist influences.

The question is what do Trotskyist Communists believe in? Are these principles pervasive in our culture and what motivates them and why?

Seek and you'll find...

http://www.biblehub.com/matthew/7-7.htm
Posted by Canem Malum, Sunday, 2 June 2019 8:12:56 AM
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