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I do not condone censorship but as each "terror event" unfolds the blanket coverage by the media leads me to believe that they are doing exactly what Isis wants.
In the UK they used to have a system of stopping media exposure called D notices. I am not sure if they are still in effect but it would seem that there is a need for something like this now.
Wherever dear mr abbott is now I am sure that the air is filled with "death cults" streaming out and of course this is what the "terrorist" want and also the military industrial complex backed by the neocons.
Let us have a rest from hysterical bleating about this sort of thing.
Posted by Robert LePage, Saturday, 14 November 2015 4:25:29 PM
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Robert Le Page, I agree there is too much media coverage of awful events like this latest Paris tragedy, however, in these days of social media the cat is well and truly out of the bag and on Facebook etc long before the media has time to tell all.

The other problem is that many people like to watch or listen to this sort of story and will tune in, leaving the media excited about all the revenue they make, and so will keep it rolling on and on.

The French Govt. also used the media to warn people in France to stay indoors etc, thus it is a safety measure as well.
With all these points I would say we will always have to just live with it, or switch it off.
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 14 November 2015 5:30:11 PM
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Some chickens coming home to roost for the cultural Marxists.

So they call for 'D Notices' and censorship!

The leftists are totalitarian.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 14 November 2015 6:39:53 PM
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Speaking of 'hysterical bleatings'...

It's a wonder that some of these pathetic bleaters haven't blamed the Paris bombings on 'leftist, progressive, regressive, communist, Marxist, Trotskyist, atheist, feminists...or just women in general, rather than on dreadful violent people who believe that invisible gods are happy with their actions.

Oh, wait a minute, one just did mention good old Marxists above.
Isn't Communism and 'ooohhh red's under the beds!' so old story now?
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 14 November 2015 7:18:42 PM
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The regressives remain in denial because their own ideology is just as putried as Isis. Again Abbott proven right.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 14 November 2015 7:40:40 PM
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Oh yes.....and here comes another one!
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 14 November 2015 8:38:27 PM
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@Robert LePage and @Suseonline - Do you think there was/is too much media coverage of anything associated with "white racism" or "white bigotry" or "anti-Islamists" or "bogans" in Australia or indeed worldwide? (i.e. Pauline Hanson, Cronulla riots, anti-Islamic backlash, right-wing political, National Front, Britain First, etc etc etc..)
Posted by GeniusBogan, Saturday, 14 November 2015 8:41:04 PM
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Not at all GeniusBogan, I think there should be MUCH more written about all those deadbeat fringe-dwelling groups, so we can all recognise instantly the stupidity of these sorts of people.

I am as upset as anyone else about the awful violence of these religious fundamentalists who used guns and bombs to kill innocent people in Paris.

I am pleased they killed themselves as well.

But....that still does not make me madly hate ALL Muslims or anyone else, other than these violent people.
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 14 November 2015 9:00:07 PM
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What do you all expect when we invade and occupy and kill?
Did you think they would just sit back in submission?
How many more attacks will it take till we wake up?

FIGHT WAR NOT WARS!
Posted by mikk, Saturday, 14 November 2015 9:05:45 PM
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Thanks for your reply Suseonline - Yes it would indeed be very simple-minded and potentially harmful to brand a whole cohort of people because a minority of that cohort behaved in a socially unaceptable manner.

Can I ask WHY you would think it is OK for the media to cover white extremists but not "brown" ones who identify as Muslim?

Is your point of difference a reflection of your perceived difference in degree of "backlash" received by members of either of these respective communities perhaps? (i.e. Muslims cop more flack than Anglos). Or is it based on some other reasoning?
Posted by GeniusBogan, Saturday, 14 November 2015 9:18:24 PM
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Susie and reasoning have never gone together. Interpreting everything according to the regressive narrative is always her response. Just turn on the abc/Turnbull and you will get the drift.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 14 November 2015 9:59:10 PM
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I wouldn't go as far as saying that the Left is in league with Islamists - although many scholars and commentators do say this - but the aims of both groups are the same: the bringing down of Western society.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 14 November 2015 10:19:53 PM
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ttbn, what do you regard as "the Left"?

99.9% of those on what I consider to be the Left don't want to bring down Western society. Most want to reform it, but with the objectives of making it succeed and ensuring everyone can benefit from that success.

Of course there are lunatic fringe elements in almost every group, but they seem to be quite overrepresented in the Right. Especially on this site!
Posted by Aidan, Sunday, 15 November 2015 1:09:21 AM
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Genius Bogan, I am sorry but I was being a little sarcastic re all the mad white supremacist groups etc getting media coverage. I just didn't word it quite right.
To my mind they are just as bad as any of the terrorists....they are all full of hate.

Runner, I thought you said I was a progressive?
Now I am a regressive? Have I changed?
As for your obvious dislike of Turnbull, I thought you loved the holy Libs?
Who are you going for now then?
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 15 November 2015 1:49:44 AM
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Suseonline, "..white supremacist groups etc ..they are just as bad as any of the terrorists"

Offensive. Disgusting. Irrelevant. Just trying to spread the blame and muddy the waters as usual.

-While people grieve, dozens lie in pain in hospital beds and lives are changed forever.

You are shameless.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 15 November 2015 2:01:32 PM
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'Runner, I thought you said I was a progressive? '

nothing at all progressive about your ideology Susie. In fact the opposite.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 15 November 2015 2:40:44 PM
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' As for your obvious dislike of Turnbull, I thought you loved the holy Libs?
Who are you going for now then?'

Susie if my hope was in Pollies I would likely of topped myself a long time ago. They are as corrupt as you and me.
Posted by runner, Sunday, 15 November 2015 3:00:53 PM
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Runner, you have come a long way since I started on this forum by saying you are corrupt!
Wonders will never cease.
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 15 November 2015 3:57:17 PM
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@Suseonline - What I find odd and disturbing and irresponsible in this whole concern about a 'backlash' against Muslims is the following ... If one can rationalise a motive for 'internal' Jihardism as being that angry Non Muslims are somehow responsible for Moderate Muslims becoming Radical Muslims, why can't one rationalise the same logic for why the so-called Anglo 'racists' (e.g. Cronulla rioters) become who they are seen as in the media as angry and resentful? Why are the latter the 'racists' who need to act more responsibly but not the former? Are the former Moderate Muslims seen as child-like somehow and not responsible for taking a different course of action than to be pushed in sypathising for Jihad by their apparent racist Anglo neighbours? Who is the CAUSE and who is the EFFECT??
Posted by GeniusBogan, Sunday, 15 November 2015 6:59:14 PM
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GeniusBogan, why are you asking me?
I have no idea why some Muslims become radicalized, and I doubt many people do.
If they did, maybe we could work at stopping it happening.
I hate all violence, regardless of race, religion or culture of the offenders.
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 15 November 2015 9:14:54 PM
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Suseonline - I am not asking you to explain why some Muslims become radicalised and others not ... I am highlighting a lazy, reckless, dangerous, irresponsible kind of reasoning I am worried about on this issue ... That this reasoning is reckless is very easy to show and not my concern here (happy to argue that point anytime) ... The more interesting thing humanity needs to look at is why some people in the "West" would exhibit this absurd contradiction where they only hold "white" people, and mainly males, responsible for all of the crap in the world, particularly Islamic radical terrorism at the moment ... Why can't we simply say that the buck stops with the "redneck" Islamists and no one else??
Posted by GeniusBogan, Sunday, 15 November 2015 9:37:43 PM
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Haven't had a good look at the details regarding the Paris terror attacks yet but I told you all 6 weeks ago there would be a false flag coming.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17711#313422

Just like I also told you these events are based (in part) on US actions protecting US global hegemony and the petrodollar.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=17756#314075

Listened to this tonight and found it interesting.
http://youtu.be/VjU5uqqF36E

Isn't it great how the New World Order works?
All you 'useful idiots' end up bickering amongst yourselves while none can see the real game being played, and never realising that you're being used and played all along.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 15 November 2015 10:25:12 PM
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Armchair Critic

what drugs are you on?
Posted by runner, Sunday, 15 November 2015 10:31:32 PM
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Not the corporate media left/right paradigm drug that you're on.
http://youtu.be/Y2JzJAdIfkw
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 15 November 2015 11:10:06 PM
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No Genius Bogan, I am still not with you.
"Why can't we simply say that the buck stops with the "redneck" Islamists and no one else??"
I haven't heard anyone say what colour skin the terrorists in Paris had/have, although some of the survivors stated they were young men of middle eastern appearance.
I would imagine that most people would think that meant they had dark hair and dark skin. They were heard to yell the usual thing that Islamic-based terrorists say, so everyone might assume they were Muslim.

That is not to say that ALL terrorists look like that, or that they are all Muslim though does it? Because that would be untrue.
The violent young blokes that shot dead so many kids at US schools were predominantly young white guys, and I would certainly call them terrorists too.
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 16 November 2015 1:07:07 AM
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Suse, your conversation with GeniusBogan is a perfect example of how you pretend to not understand what is clearly spelled out to you, whilst continuing to hold your flawed position. When confronted with a logical explanation you either retreat into denial, fail to answer direct questions, disappear, or simply continue as though a sensible alternative position was never presented.

You say - "That is not to say that ALL terrorists look like that, or that they are all Muslim though does it? Because that would be untrue.
The violent young blokes that shot dead so many kids at US schools were predominantly young white guys, and I would certainly call them terrorists too."

Your comment above is completely false thinking and deflection. The deranged serial killers and gun crazed idiots in America are not terrorist, they are not attempting to change the political landscape or carry out their acts in the name of a false God. The people today who are the terrorist causing so many problems throughout the world are in fact exclusively Muslim. It doesn't matter if they are brown Muslims from the middle East, black Muslims from Africa or white Muslims from Chechnya, they are Muslims.

When are you going to finally wake up and admit there is a Muslim problem, regardless of the fact most Muslim are not responsible?

I've said several times that I believe Islamic expansionism is a bigger threat to the world of the future than climate change. I find it ironic that both issues are now coming to a head in Paris.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 9:39:02 AM
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ConservativeHippie; "The deranged serial killers and gun crazed idiots in America are not terrorist,"

And the deranged killers from ISIS etc, are not terrorists?
Anyone who walks around with a gun and a suicide belt has to be deranged.
Do not worry about "Islamic expansionism is a bigger threat to the world of the future than climate change."
Climate change will wipe most animal life out eventually and Allah will not save the Muslims.
Sorry to say you are the one in a flawed position. I wish you were right this time.
Posted by Robert LePage, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 10:32:39 AM
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Robert and Suseonline suffer from the same mistaken belief that there is no difference between a deranged killer and a Muslim extremist but they are completely wrong.

A terrorist group has an agenda of striking ongoing fear/terror into the society of people it is against with a view toward changing the thinking of those people to comply. Join us or die from us. General Custer was a terrorist. He sought to strike terror into the Indians until they succumb to their fears and surrender. A deranged killer has no such intention and does not belong to a group of like minded people. The deranged are out-of-control individuals expressing rage caused by psychosis or grievances emanating within their own head.

Terrorists belong to a cause. Jihad is responsible for just about every terrorist act we've witnessed in the past 50 years. Muslim terrorism is not one off crackpots, its a movement that is getting stronger and their religion is not taking strong enough steps to reverse the trend. Our open society allows radical Muslim clerics to preach hate.

Sure some terrorist are probably deranged and some might have particularly sadistic mindsets, but the common feature they share with others within their circle is the belief they can die performing evil against non-believers and their religion will regard them as martyrs. Until the Koran includes passages that specifically states such evil acts are not rewarded in Heaven, Muslim terrorists have a license to kill. The Koran cannot be modified as per instructions from Mohammed, the religion cannot evolve to reflect the 1500 years of enlightened change in the world, and there lies the Catch 22 that strangles moderate Muslims from enabling the necessary effective changes.

Time will tell who is right about climate change but in 100 years even if the temperature has risen 4 degrees, which it won't, coastal cities will not be submerged underwater. However, if Muslim expansionism goes unchecked for the next 100 years coupled with their higher birth rates, your great grandchildren will either be Muslim converts or paying a Sharia tax to stay alive.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 1:15:53 PM
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I repeat;
Do not worry about "Islamic expansionism is a bigger threat to the world of the future than climate change."
Climate change will wipe most animal life out eventually and Allah will not save the Muslims.
Posted by Robert LePage, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 2:46:56 PM
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So Robert, are you saying and/or do you believe there is nothing to be concerned about in regard to predicted number of uninvited Muslims entering Europe? Is an endless and limitless surge acceptable? How many Muslims do you think Australia should accept, 10,000, 100,000 a 1,000,000?

At what point does the Muslim invasion become an issue? Or do you think everyone who is concerned is just a paranoid racist with baseless illogical fears, even though world events suggest otherwise? On what basis do you draw your conclusions?

Where exactly are you coming from?

By the way, my belief there is less real concern from climate change than Muslim expansionism is over the next 100 years, as per the predictions of The Holy Climate Guru - Flannery, not eternity. If we set no limit to how long it will take for climate change to have the bigger damaging effect then I fully agree with you, Allah won't stop the next ice age which will come and will be devastating to humanity, the animal kingdom and most plant life.

In the meantime, are you happy for your future relatives to be governed by Sharia Law?
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 4:13:42 PM
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Melbourne has just had a CBD lockdown.
It was not the ISIL but our boys in Blue who orchestrated the "Shoe box debacle."
At Southern Cross station near a Shoe factory outlet Police discovered
a Windsor Smith shoebox.
The day before a senior Policeman was saying Police need more than a Pistol.
Our Police should be censored not our press.
Posted by BROCK, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 6:56:32 PM
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Where exactly are you coming from?
I am of the opinion that all of the present trouble was caused by the neocon plan for taking over various countries in the middle east.
““We’re going to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan & Iran..” http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166
If Howard and Blair had not sided with them and helped with the invasions, destabilisation of this area, none of the present terrorism and war would be going on now.
Now we have drought, diminishing food supplies and water, an increasing population all adding to the mix.
Bombing the middle East is not going to help. We are going to have our nice way of life disrupted for good.
So we are reaping what we have sown. Suck it up because we are stuck with it.
Posted by Robert LePage, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 9:18:00 AM
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'' If Howard and Blair had not sided with them and helped with the invasions, destabilisation of this area, none of the present terrorism and war would be going on now.'

Roberts ignorance shows why we are stuffed. Not a clue just a totally flawed convenient narrative.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 9:35:52 AM
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Robert says "So we are reaping what we have sown. Suck it up because we are stuck with it." In other words, if we can't beat them, join them.

Well Robert you may be looking forward to bending over forward and taking anything the Islamist have planned for you, but thankfully the masses are not as stupid or as willing to give up our freedom so fast.
Posted by ConservativeHippie, Wednesday, 18 November 2015 2:34:42 PM
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