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Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 29 December 2013 10:04:31 AM
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Yep! I mused about that too: How was it that with all the Antarctic rapidly warming and its ice degraded due to AGW, did these climate experts equipped with cutting edge modelling and weather prediction technology, get caught in the ice?
Can't recall anything about Douglass Mawson's ship being ice bound --last time I heard anything similar was with King Canute! But never-mind, sooner of later the usual suspects will come up with some link from the ABC or New Matilda telling why it is so. Posted by SPQR, Monday, 30 December 2013 5:22:42 AM
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but all'gore said the ice has melted
gone for ever see the empty damms Posted by one under god, Monday, 30 December 2013 5:53:14 AM
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I agree!
You just gotta laugh at the flimsy non existing evidence you blokes clutch to fight the truth. Man made climate change is truth. And for me, a cheeky old codger at best a vision in my mind of you three paper bags over your heads so you can not see any truth is fun. Have a great new year blokes and get rid of the head gear. Posted by Belly, Monday, 30 December 2013 5:59:21 AM
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Why is the sea ice so far away from where it is supposed to be. Has it got something to do with the thaw rate, making the ocean that cold a change in the wind and the whole thing freezes.
Lets remember the patterns of extreme events around the world is the new norm. Posted by 579, Monday, 30 December 2013 6:53:18 AM
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<<Lets remember the patterns of extreme events around the world is the new norm>> [579]
As Maxwell Smart would say: "Aaaah! Kaos's old cover all clause!" If it is too hot it must be AGW If it is too cold it must be AGW Only if it is Goldilocks-like just right, can it be said to have nothing to do with AGW. Posted by SPQR, Monday, 30 December 2013 7:08:14 AM
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http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/climategate.php
ever heard of volcanos? http://www.thedailysheeple.com/strong-quake-and-rapid-inflation-in-the-canary-islands-the-el-hierro-volcano-ready-to-blow_122013 this cold 'spell''..comes from..hell[the rim of fire has at least 5 active near usa[see other links/do ya reseach] http://investmentwatchblog.com/72-of-americans-see-big-government-as-largest-threat-video/ http://intellihub.com/2013/12/28/glass-particles-found-in-gardasil-vaccine-743360-vials-recalled/ http://xrepublic.tv/node/6768 http://www.naturalblaze.com/2013/12/deadly-vaccine-kills-8-infants-drug.html http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=BLOOM&date=20131227&id=17220650 http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/news/theres-alarming-number-deaths-us-jails http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/constructing-public-opinion/ hell do/ya own research http://whatreallyhappened.com/node i..got a date/with destiny http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6166&page=0 why..im/sick..of the lies if anyone ..dies..let it be me you..cant avoid\fate/mate.. come walk/to-fro]..with me...at..south bank[tuesday-night] [thats [providing..they even /let me..hop on..the bus http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6152#178808 Posted by one under god, Monday, 30 December 2013 8:34:24 AM
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look the fastest way to get you up to speed
http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss http://rss.infowars.com/20131227_Fri_Alex.mp3 http://rss.infowars.com/20131226_Thu_Alex.mp3 http://rss.infowars.com/20131225_Wed_Alex.mp3 http://rss.infowars.com/20131224_Tue_Alex.mp3 but heck/the globalist agenda..[carbon..tax..as the only legal tender] thats conspiracy..theory..till the/day it becomes real..well/liars lie i..refuse to die..for their lies. but when you got nuthin..you got nuthin to loose Posted by one under god, Monday, 30 December 2013 8:49:25 AM
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Hi Belly,
Like I said << there will be no irony, no embarrassment and no shame. >> and you truly didn’t get any of it. The “truth” they we looking for was YOUR truth and not ours. The really hilarious point is they didn’t find your truth but got trapped by the lack of it. I sometimes wonder about you Belly. You have hit rock bottom so you can stop digging now. @579. I did list some the already quoted excuses being given for getting stuck in the ice that was not supposed to be there, but yours is definitely the most comical. << Has it got something to do with the thaw rate, making the ocean that cold a change in the wind and the whole thing freezes.? >> Doh! If brains were gunpowder 579, you wouldn’t have enough to raise your eyebrows. The thaw rate? Yes 579, I think we can conclude that warm makes ice melt and cold makes water freeze. You missed the point, there was no “warm” as “predicted”, so the ice didn’t melt, get it now? Sheesh! The news is that the second ice breaker is now ice bound and presumably this means a helicopter rescue is now pointless for the moment. I was just wondering if anyone had any Penguin or Seal recipes to send our intrepid eco-warriors? We had a few friends round last night and we had “cheek ache” from laughing at the drama and dreaming up recipes. I like the sound of “Char-grilled humble pie over a diesel BBQ with steamed Cungevoi” The Telegraph is also onto the “Irony” of this story but OLO got there first. Onya GY. Posted by spindoc, Monday, 30 December 2013 9:28:29 AM
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Now, now, it IS 'Progressive' global warming, after all.
Some of the site's political 'Progressives' will be along shortly to explain, after the 'independent' media has taken its cue (and media release) from the Progressives abroad, the (cough) 'Progressive Internationale' or *SI, to the In-group (when the sheep-skin comes off the wolf, nudge, nudge, wink, wink). Meanwhile some music for their entry, Stage Left, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhineE8yaVg Meanwhile, some more of Julia Whatshername's 'poisonous' carbon dioxide for my fruit trees please. There has been rain and a growth spurt would be good. *SI, Socialist International - aka Progressives, when in sheep's clothing. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 30 December 2013 9:57:16 AM
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Hay 579, please expand your theory on this thaw you mention.
Satellite records show one million square kilometers more sea ice, right now, than the average of the last 20 years. Yes ONE MILLION square kilometers. Now that is some thaw. Now Belly, I'm not too sure just how flimsy you thing a million square kilometers is, but to me it is quite substantial. So is the ice that these fools have got themselves stuck in. It takes quite a bit to stop a dedicated ice breaker, but it is stopping them. Mate it's time to pull your head out from under the pillow, & admit this global warming scare was just another socialist scheme to separate the west from it's money, to give it to the indolent bludgers in the third world. You've seen, admitted, & lamented some of the failings of Gillard & company. Time to stop smelling the roses, & see the UN & socialism in general for what it is. A UN controlled by all the tin pot African Middle Eastern & Asian nations is extremely anti the west, & it is time everyone fronted up & admitted it. Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 30 December 2013 9:57:25 AM
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anyhow [i was watching a vidio..just yesterday
where..the new world.order..haqs divided up the earth just out of curiosity..who owns the ice? it seems that the Antarctica..[the great south/land]..wasnt ever claimed..by ANY..of our new world order masters..just thought..i would point out the irony*..of it. anyhow..im off on tuesday..for walkabout #nightmare #178808 JUST AFTER I..POSTED..*THIS look the fastest way to get you up to speed http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss [now redirects to live rep[lay]..broadcast..for today [it used to be the index[see under http://rss.infowars.com/20131227_Fri_Alex.mp3 http://rss.infowars.com/20131226_Thu_Alex.mp3 http://rss.infowars.com/20131225_Wed_Alex.mp3 http://rss.infowars.com/20131224_Tue_Alex.mp3 anyhow a minute after posting that..they began redirecting me so no doudt they will prevent my posting it to twitter oneunderstands [is me] anyhow ol mate[how do i twitter it now? im..stymied..in real time.. i..refuse to die..for their lies... but when you got nuthin..you got nuthin to loose [just in case you dont see anything..on twitter before i post them..there..all i ask for this peace is here #178808 #one under god #freeman #urgent #sun7 #alex jones #infowars http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6152#178808 letter to hrh #178808 http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15864#274775 gods will. #178808 #one under god #freeman #urgent #sun7 #alex jones #infowars http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6166#179044 laws of assosiation #178808 #one under god #freeman #urgent #sun7 #alex jones #infowars http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6164#179036 controling govt #178808 #one under god #freeman #urgent #sun7 #alex jones #infowars http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6165#179058 just for a lark #178808 #one under god #freeman #urgent #sun7 #alex jones #infowars http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6158#178913 what im really angry about #178808 #one under god #freeman #urgent #sun7 #alex jones #infowars http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/user.asp?id=51186&show=history post history #178808 #one under god #freeman #urgent #sun7 #alex jones #infowars URGENT..listen #178808 #one under god #freeman #urgent #sun7 #alex jones #infowars http://xml.nfowars.net/Alex.rss #178808 #one under god #freeman #urgent #sun7 #alex jones #infowars http://whatreallyhappened.com/node #178808 #one under god #freeman #urgent #sun7 #alex jones #infowars or something like that things should begin warming upsoon? Posted by one under god, Monday, 30 December 2013 11:12:38 AM
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OUG, Glad you are going walkabout on Tuesday. Your posts are getting so far "out there" even your most ardent followers are exhausted.
Enjoy the trip and take your time. Posted by spindoc, Monday, 30 December 2013 1:16:35 PM
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Spindoc Gday again and yes hope its a great year for you.
Do you understand the truly funny thing about this subject? I doubt any poster on any side is not a one hundred percent believer in what he/she posts. So think about that. Unless at some future date we find out both are half right, and we may very well, someone is quite wrong. Remember that golden oldy that song? *It had to be you* As this leg puller never is. Have fun but know right or wrong I am totally sure we are impacting on the planet and its climate. Posted by Belly, Monday, 30 December 2013 2:11:06 PM
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Hi Belly,
Many thanks for your wishes for 2014, likewise all the very best to you and yours for the future. You ask if I truly understand what is funny about this subject? Yes I think I do, I thought I’d made the sources of my mirth quite clear, it’s all about humour, irony and a touch of ridicule. I don’t think it has anything to do with “belief” in what we post. Remember I'm just the messenger, this story is straight off the ABC news. I don’t have to believe in it because every other news channel has also covered it. So I trust rather then believe. True or false, the situation warrants humour. To those who feel that the ridicule is directed at their “belief” and do not see the funny side, I refer to the often drawn conclusion that “believers” exhibit a dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humour, particularly when their belief is challenged. Just look at the responses on this thread from the warmers, not a bl**dy grin in the house. You say you are “totally sure we are impacting on the planet and its climate”. I can agree with that. Now all you have to do is measure that. Yes I do remember the old song, “It had to be you”. Your problem is next time won’t be Frank Sinatra singing Belly, it will be the Fat Lady and she’s warming up right about now. Smile Belly, stop taking your belief too seriously and see the funny side of things for a change, Have a good old “Belly Laugh”. Posted by spindoc, Monday, 30 December 2013 3:12:39 PM
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It might seem funny but the millions of dollars, rescue bill will not be so easy to laugh at.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 30 December 2013 4:07:38 PM
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<< Let’s remember the pattern of extreme events around the world is the new norm. >>
You got it 579. Maybe we shouldn’t be calling it global warming. How about global energising instead? We're certainly get more extreme events, by the bucketload! And for anyone who knows anything about weather; that’s just what you’d expect to happen in a more energised system. Overall, it is trending slightly warmer. But the amount of variation is the first thing that is really showing up…. and it has included many severe very cold events as well as supertyphoons, floods and the like in recent years. And let’s not forget earthquakes. They are also connected to a more energised system. All of this is exactly what you would expect when the Earth’s staggeringly enormous store of carbon is SUDDENLY released into the atmosphere in the geological blink of an eye!.... along with the staggeringly massive changes to the Earth’s land surface in terms of reflectivity, transpiration, infiltration, runoff, etc. You guys who continue to denounce global warming really do need to take a good hard look at the changes that man has made to the various factors that affect the weather, and think about the notion that if the flap of a butterfly’s wings in the Amazon could cause a cyclone in Australia, then what can the changes that man has made over the last century do? Please, STOP calling AGW bunkum, and start facing reality! Posted by Ludwig, Monday, 30 December 2013 8:24:32 PM
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Luddy, surely you haven't taken to reading those propaganda rags now. If not I can't imagine where you are getting your information from.
There have been less cyclones of a number of years now, & not a single one made landfall in the Atlantic basin this year. Tornados are down for 8 years now. North America has set over 2000 cold records set in the last couple of weeks, & there is so much ice in the Antarctic it's playing games with warmists & their stunts. So sorry mate, it's not just bunkum, it is collapsed bunkum. Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 12:19:02 AM
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I miss arjay!
He bought us conspiracy theory,s by the wheel barrow full. And often started threads that drew us in numbers. Hope he is OK. And I often pointed out he side stepped this true conspiracy! Yes Global warming just must be a conspiracy! What ever side you take. The other side is a conspiracy! Both sides are intent on proving the other sides science is a fraud! yes it is a conspiracy. Do we remember the Tobacco Industry and its Pet scientists? paid to say it was safe. If we look at mans history post the start of the Industrial era 1750, we will see our lack of concern for the Planet. We have openly pumped sewage in to the sea dumped all trypes of waste there too. We see steams that are over run with our cast offs. And massive hundreds of thousands of used tyers dumped in the bush even over the edge of our roads. Self interest and cash not the planets health are in control. And? as I am convinced Global Warming is real/man made I find the other sides determination to to ignore the every day symptoms funny and very sad too. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 8:27:22 AM
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the silence of the ABC/fairfax on this issue is deafening and again dishonest.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 6:12:45 PM
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Ten years ago these global warming scientists were claiming "Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past" (Actual UK Independent headline, March 20, 2000)
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/snowthingofthepast.jpg The global warming hoax is not about saving the Earth, it is about MONEY! Carbon taxes and carbon credits. Everyone taking part in this hoax has made a huge fortune. Al Gore, nearly broke after his last Presidential campaign, has made millions from is Carbon Exchanges (set up with the advice of ENRON's Ken Lay, to do to the Earth with CO2 what ENRON did to California with electricity. Scientists supporting the political agenda are well-funded, while scientists who dare point out that the world has actually cooled are suppressed. Remember "Hide The Decline?" Then there was the Climategate scandal where emails and computer source codes were leaked from the Hadley Climate Research Unit from the University of East Anglia that proved intentional fraud to scare up a global warming boogeyman with which to trick the people of the world out of their money, either as carbon taxes or forced purchase of carbon credits, and to force people into obedience to an eventual global environmental authority. The scientists who sold their souls for global warming funding are desperate to hang onto what little remains of their reputations, which is why, even as another arctic cold air mass sweeps across the United States, they are still wagging the warming at us all. Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 4:06:07 AM
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WOW! well said OUG
When you dump the jazz, you write very well. Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 6:00:26 AM
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Just tell me why the other side, mine has made up this issue, what do they/we want from our massive lie?
Sounds like greeny talk but this planet is our home we must confront that. Come to under stand one rock from space could kill us all. And that we are from from good at looking after our rock in space. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 6:08:47 AM
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<<Just tell me why the other side, mine has made up this issue, what do they/we want from our massive lie?>>
Here's a one clue: There is BIG MONEY in it: trillions & trillions of dollars in "climate reparations" are being called for from the West as compensation for climate damages --one Asian nations representative(s) (who shall remain nameless) has already of two occasions, at international forums, broken down in tears and accused the developed nations of inflicting cyclones on "her people" Most of the nations who attend these humungous climate conferences are not there to sign-up for cuts in their green house gases, they are there simply to weasel some more freebies/handouts. Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 6:59:25 AM
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Belly currently the spend by governments on global warming is one BILLION a DAY.
Add in what councils spend, the subsidies paid to alternate power generation companies, & individuals, & it gets up to almost another BILLION dollars a DAY. If you really don't think that interests lots of shonks, you are not thinking too deeply. It is highly possible that the first scientists involved actually believed their theory. It is also probable that some of them, & others before them, believed in the new ice age scare of the 70s. Once the greens, radical socialists, & the world government brigade started using it to further world government, it went from science to propaganda. Then add all the tin pot developing countries, promised a hundred billion a year from the west in compensation, & there is a lot of momentum to keep the fraud alive. Add in national governments hungry for new taxes to save their budgets, & it is all there. Any Ozzie who thinks the United Nations is our friend is suffering delusions. The UN is now controlled by those very numerous semi failed states, with the voting power to control most of the UN activity. It is only the veto in the security council that stops total stupidity. Have you noticed that the "scientists" on this global warming propaganda trip, paid for by us, are now being referred to as tourists? The planet is continually biting these fraudsters on the bum, & the ABC, BBC & green/left MSM are trying to play down the failures. As the list grows, the wheels are falling off. Time to get off mate, just like the so called "scientists" are getting off their stuck ship. The fat lady has sung, the curtain has closed, the scam is over. Time to join us in the real world. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 12:23:28 PM
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the gw believers are just as gullible and 'trusting'as those holding to the big bang fantasy. No wonder these brainwahers hate schools were people are taught to think rather than accept their myths.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 12:52:20 PM
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Well I did set a trap.
But only one poster nearly fell for it. See big money is behind one side of this conspiracy. The anti Global warming one. Let us however consider why ANY SIDE wants to lie to us on this issue. If a conspiracy of the left drives this confrontation how? I am confident, honestly! some here will live to see proof climate change is man made. The mighty yet dirty dollar comes first not our planet. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 2:19:02 PM
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Belly you got me. An oil company pays me a hundred million a year to tell lies. Almost as much as some universities get.
Please don't tell the government. I could never afford the back taxes. If you believe the global warming shonks, why not believe me. Both lies are equally convincing. Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 10:09:43 PM
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dear belly..i..hear..wind farms are ACTUALLY..paid..to *NOT produce..power
think why old mate http://www.google.com.au/search?q=windfarms+paid+to+not+produce its the same for large solar..and tidal energy why? do the research[5 days ago..a lot of it was researched at the '[what really happened'.. link..[i was going to post it at the time[but was detracted with MORE REAL ISSUES belly..its a scam..mate..they LIED to you just like near anything else..[mate these people love lying] every day..they SUBSIDIZE..huge companies..BILLIONS per day im not paid to blog big toobacco..pays more in tax.. than unions collect for govt..plus..[alp advertising] Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 10:23:34 PM
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So a shipload of global warming scientists gets stuck in ice 70 km from where Mawson made landfall, and all the idiots of the left wing can do is insist that it's caused by global warming.
Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 11:59:21 PM
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I keep asking this question but no one seems to have an answer.
Q. What caused the last ice age, because man didn't? I am the first to agree that our burning of fossil fuels must cause some harm, however, in the past twenty odd years we hear in Oz have moved mountains in the form of environmental awareness and changing our ways. Our industries are much cleaner. Our waterways don't see half the pollution they used to, this is despite the increase in industry and population of this period. We have seen cleaner burring cars on our roads, introduced laws controlling land clearing. How have we been rewarded, a big fat TAX, much of which goes to the coffers of the likes of the UN to feather their nests no doubt, or to fund some bottomless pit, aimed at curing the incurable such as third world population explosions, in that they say food, water and shelter is the answer, whereas birth control is where the real answer lies. Barnaby Joyce made a very accurate comment a couple of years ago while on Q&A, he said, and I quote, "you know if you keep paying people to do research they will keep researching, don't you" end quote. Never a truer word spoken. It is typical of this country to punish people even when they make an effort to do the right thing, from environmental issues, through to paying taxes. You do the right thing, yet you still get punished. It's time we rethought our ways I think. Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 2 January 2014 8:44:56 AM
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Hi rehctub,
Like most people I would have no problem with the proposition that humans can, and even may already have impacted on the climate. This proposition always ends with, OK so now measure it. This is where the alarmism has failed them, not the proposition but the measuring. The IPCC and their supporters have offered projections and forecasts, they failed to eventuate as did polar bears etc. They ended up doing more harm to their own cause. It is worth watching only two domains. The first is the extremes the alarmists will go to in order to maintain their alarms. The AAE, as the subject of this thread, is an excellent and ongoing example of the contortions they are now putting themselves through. The second it to watch the antics of those once committed to CAGW as they try to extricate themselves. The British PM recently issued 176 Fracking licenses, subject to EPA approvals. He then wrote to the EU to ask that no new anti-Fracking legislation would be imposed by the EU. Given the recent EU position on Fracking, the expectation was that they would tell Cameron to sod off! Instead they met his request? Cameron has already flagged the removal of “green taxes”. Now the EU has “ordered” the UK to end wind farm and solar subsidies. The Daily Telegraph, 3 January 2014 The last bastion of CAGW is now Euro-centric. No Kyoto to sign up for binding targets, no emission trading markets and a bankrupt global “Renewable Energy Industry”. The main reasons for these developments seems to be that the EU see’s the catastrophic CAGW response costs (800 bn Euros in eight years) as a threat to EU unity and is prepared to act contrary to even the UN’s wishes. The UKIP has gained strong public support for the EU parliament an looks set to gain a majority. The POMS don’t want a UKIP in the UK but they sure as hell see a chance to “go upstairs” to the third umpire. CAGW was begat by politics and this is where it will crumble Posted by spindoc, Saturday, 4 January 2014 10:00:16 AM
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completely unspoken..is the suns poles shift on monday
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=sun+pole+shift& Sun 'flips upside down' while reversing magnetic poles by Staff Writers http://rss.infowars.com/20140103_Fri_Alex.mp3 Moscow (Voice of Russia) Jan 01, 2014 The sun has undergone a "complete field reversal," with its north and south poles changing places as it marks the midpoint of Solar Cycle 24. "A reversal of the sun's magnetic field is, literally, a big event," NASA's Dr. Tony Phillips said in a statement issued on the space agency's website. "The sun's polar magnetic fields weaken, go to zero and then emerge again with the opposite polarity. This is a regular part of the solar cycle," Stanford solar physicist Phil Scherrer explained. While it may seem like the event could have catastrophic repercussions.. edited Both the aurora borealis and its southern counterpart - the australis - are set to become broader, more frequent, and more visible now that the event has reached its final stage. The process has been slow and steady, with solar physicist Todd Hoeksama telling Metro: "It's kind of like a tide coming in or going out. Each little wave brings a little more water in, and eventually you get to the full reversal." Scherrer explained earlier in December that "the sun's north pole has already changed sign, while the South Pole is racing to catch up." The impact of the process has been extremely far-reaching. edited NASA has released a visualization of how the switch occurs. Beginning in 1997 and ending in 2013, it shows the green (positive) polarity switching with the purple (negative) polarity. Solar Cycle 24 has been viewed as quite unpredictable. First, it came late by about a year, with extremely low activity recorded throughout 2009. This prompted astronomers to shift a predicted 2012 peak to 2013. Scientists say the cycle is already among the weakest reported and if the trend continues, the Earth might see another Little Ice Age. of course the greenies say..now..the earths poles shift is caused by warming.. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24755-earths-poles-are-shifting-because-of-climate-change.html anyhow..earths pole too will shift shortly Posted by one under god, Saturday, 4 January 2014 4:55:27 PM
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from the greenie link
Computer simulations have suggested that as glaciers and ice sheets melt, the distribution of mass on the Earth’s surface changes, in turn cause the Earth’s axis to shift and the positions of the poles to shift. This process is nothing new. However, scientists found that in 2005, the North Poles drift altered abruptly. The pole changed from its southwards course and began moving eastwards, by about 1.2 metres in the last eight years. Researchers from the University of Texas used data collected by a specialised NASA satellite to discover that the redistribution of mass caused by changing sea levels, due to the melting of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets, correlated perfectly with the pole’s change in course. “Ice melting and sea level change can explain 90% of the [eastward shift]“, says Jianli Chen, senior research scientist at the University of Texas. anyhow...till the ice melts..we have bought some more time [thank you ana] lol ice free could be decades away..[now] http://blueandgreentomorrow.com/2013/09/23/arctic-ice-free-summers-could-be-only-a-few-decades-away/ Posted by one under god, Saturday, 4 January 2014 5:06:10 PM
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Do these Eco Worriers have to pay for their rescue?
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 4 January 2014 9:01:51 PM
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<<Eco Worriers>> love the term Jayb!
Posted by SPQR, Sunday, 5 January 2014 6:11:37 AM
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This thread started on a theme of Irony. Predictably this has been missed by the warmertariat who continue to proclaim their faith.
Looking at this from other perspectives. I nominate Policy, Commission of Audit and the March of Folly. The policy of the government is to abolish the CO2 tax, the RET, dismantle a swag of related CAGW government departments, the Climate Commission and the Renewable Energy Funding mechanism. Then we have the C of A and the Productivity Commission, the purpose of which is to review all government expenditure and to determine the “value” of such expenditure through the PC. Having dismantled the CAGW policy initiatives the promise of Direct Action will also have to be reviewed, my guess is that the PC will find it to be less than valuable and it is likely to be still born. Also in the “value” proposition will be the view that if, having dismantled all things CAGW, what is the value in continuing research funding for something for which we have no policy to utilize? Public funding is directed through the ARC (Australian Research Council). The CSIRO, University and direct industry research funding along with a huge range of activist NGO funding/grants will dry up because they no longer support any government policy. Many Australian Universities will be decimated. Just check how many Universities have based their core business on CAGW to suck up research and curriculum funding focused on this subject. The University of NSW home page is a great example, it is shot through with Climate Change, Global Warming and IPCC alarmism. Academia is staring down both barrels of the destruction of their marketing model. Likewise, any hope of industry funding for their CAGW research is gone. So to the March of Folly, the pursuit of that which is contrary to self interest? With a government determined to remove the policy legislation, the infrastructure and the funding model for CAGW, what better time to have Turney provide the government with all they need to withdraw such waste of public funding? Pure folly, on’ya Turney. You done good. Posted by spindoc, Sunday, 5 January 2014 9:00:14 AM
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I think it is poetic justice that this little jaunt has probable sealed the fate of global warming research funding, or at least diminished the amount, long term, the Oz universities are able to fiddle out of taxpayers.
It was obviously set up to be a big flip for a fading discipline. A huge degree of warming was going to be found, & widely promoted by the news [Con] men on board from such citadels of truth as our ABC & their BBC. I also find it a delicious irony that the Yanks much hated by academia & the greenies, are going to have to haul our bacon, along with the Russian & Chinese bacon out of the fire, well the ice in this case. I most certainly hope this twit Turney, & any other organizers involved get all the credit they deserve for the fiasco. It should look great on their resume. If only we still had Gilbert and Sullivan to write a Pirates of Antarctica comic opera about the whole episode. Hell they should be able to make a 3 or even 4 act opera from this farce, rather than just a 2 act thing. Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 5 January 2014 10:03:26 AM
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Oh dear..the usual suspects...
planet3 Posted by PLANET3, Monday, 6 January 2014 10:43:50 AM
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When you have records that have been broken or never seen before, this is called change:) just don’t put the climate in, that will just confuse you:)
P/S England seems to be unaffected, silly me:) Planet Posted by PLANET3, Monday, 6 January 2014 12:54:24 PM
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PLANET3 just to help you a little with some reality.
I am all for spending a little on studying climate change, particularly when looks at with an open mind. All this bull dust about CO2 causing global warming is the bit I won't take, at least not until you can produce some evidence to back up the theory. That is your failure, & after so many billions spent, to have nothing, is disgusting. Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 6 January 2014 11:12:10 PM
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Spindoc says;
"Congratulations Turney and thank you so much the “Larfs” (sic) One could say this to spindoc; you would be considered a joke if you were not so stupid. http://www.nature.com/news/this-was-no-antarctic-pleasure-cruise-1.14466 Posted by ozdoc, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 10:04:43 AM
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And if you believe that garbage ozdoc, I know which one is stupid.
This was a typical global warming jaunt, complete with family & children, with no purpose but propaganda, & didn't the twit give the sensible people a ship load of propaganda to throw at him, his academic mates, & his university. Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 12:52:31 PM
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"One could say this to spindoc; you would be considered a joke if you were not so stupid."
Ditto to a hasbeen. Posted by ozdoc, Thursday, 9 January 2014 7:18:27 PM
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http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/screenhunter_1587-jan-12-08-26.gif?w=640
War of the Weathers http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20A14FD3E5F167493C5A8178FD85F428785F9 By Lowell Ponte (); April 17, 1976, , Section , Page 16, Column , words [ DISPLAYING ABSTRACT ] SANTA MONICA, Calif. "From space one could control the earth's weather, cause drought and floods, change the tides and raise the levels of the sea, make temperate climates frigid," then-Senator Lyndon B. Johnson told a joint session of Congress in 1957. Like many other legislators, he accepted Defense Department fantasies that the United States was in a race with the Soviet Union to develop environmental weapons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmPSUMBrJoI&feature=player_embedded Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 14 January 2014 5:50:42 PM
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Its seems irony is having a great belly chuckle at both the antics and stupidity of these eco-warriors in their quest for some good news about Antarctic ice. I cannot resist joining in the mirth.
The research ship locked in by “summer” Antarctic ice?
Rescue ship, the Chinese icebreaker Snow Dragon is now also ice bound.
Eco-Tourists paid up to $18,800 each.
Two weeks food supplies left”
Vegan food the first to go?
May have to be evacuated by Helicopter?
This “ice” has meant the scientists had to cut down their research program?
Twitter pic’s, show everyone having an $18,800 ball sitting on the Err? Oh yes, ICE.
What can one say? Ha ha ha ha, ho ho ho, he he he!
I guess this will all be “explained” in due course (sic).
Some excuses are already emerging. It’s not ICE silly, it’s “most likely due to changing ice patters in the region”. It’s not ICE silly, it’s “predominance of unbroken fast ice”. It’s not ICE silly, it’s a “a 75-mile-long iceberg called B09B grounded itself in the entrance to Commonwealth Bay”. This great big iceberg is not made of ICE silly, it’s made of frozen water.
One thing we can all be sure of is there will be no irony, no embarrassment and no shame.
For many others like me it will be the funniest “home video” story of the year, I still can’t stop the tears of laughter rolling down my cheeks.
Congratulations Turney and thank you so much the “Larfs”.