The reasons why the Americans are so supportive of the ordinary citizen’s right to bear arms is probably because they have been through an American Civil War where they had to kick the ruling British out of America , and then again through another civil war between North and South. Australia hasn’t experienced anything like these internal wars yet. But our unarmed children or their children may.

On the other side of the argument who wants humans, some not much more intelligent than gorillas, walking around with such high powered weapons in times of peace. Then again Joanne Lees certainly could have used a rifle in such an isolated area.

CHERFULL I note your defense of American gun culture.
At the time of the American civil war my ancestors starved to death in the middle of City,s.
Soon with the opening of this then colony they got flogged and transported here in ships,some having lived on prison hulks for a decade.
On arrival they got hung for near nothing.
Surprised than pain, surely the equal to Americas war, did not lead to this generation sleeping with their teddy bear/Guns

Hi there ONE UNDER GOD...

I do thoroughly understand your grievence for the laws responsible for you losing your families heirlooms, their guns. And I'm very sorry for you.

The law was enacted far too quickly, and drafted by lawyers with little or no experience with F/A's per se.

You may have been able to retain them, if substantially modified -prevented from being used - irreversibly I'm afraid. And at your expense too. I don't know about you, I'd not want a bar of that !

In any event ONE UNDER GOD, you should have been compensated (in cash) for your loss. Or, provided they're NOT deemed to be a 'Prohibited Weapon', had them, and you, appropriately licensed.

You have my complete commiserations in this matter O.U.G. The Law, though necessary in some areas, was very poorly conceived, thus executed quite badly by everyone concerned.

Your remarks apropos John Howard, I don't agree with them. He had to do something ! He took advice (which is all he could do, when you think about it?), that advice, either good, bad or otherwise, is what he acted on.

Blame. as I do, Martin Bryant - murderer ! This will be the basis of my next topic, if you can all stand it ?

i hope we dont 'go there'..
the brandt topic..if you should go there..should be on the basis..of reviling the being..hating the deed..not the person..[or rather the soul decieved to murder

taught..it
built..his gun
suplied..his arms/munitions

who didnt speak up..these things arnt for the actual deed/rape murder theft..but because they WERE LEFT NO OTHER CHOICE*..or just love of POW'er..

or blackmailed..or from fear
or like in uk..a 'training/excersize'..like 911

yeah..i think in the main..they are..'training exersizes'
to test.."the system"..if we* chose
you wont blow up

but of course some do it for FAME
or copy FAMOUSE..media beatups..or movie plots

see many kill..just so their 'the next lee harvey oswald'..or the 'next' manson..or brant..etc..

i feel humanity..THAT FOUL*..dont deserve any name..
just a lable or a number..OUTCASTS GET NO NAME..no nationality..NO id..etc..
they are just nuthin*

the media beat-up fear..with names..
[lets kill the al'carda harder..or lets drop the nipsnatzies bronco's....its all about NAMES*..

DELETE..publicly..the COMPLETE public record from HIS-sTORY..of their name/education..

AS IF THEY NEVER WERE*..establish their peers

then isolate..or takeaway the toys
they would CHOSE..use..TO let LOOSE
on other..

but then media glorifies them..into heroes..
so then more nutters..emerge

our media..is saturated with negative crap..
more war in sport/watch the murder mystery..or the latest cop fiasco..or a bankheist..time for lotto..get blotto

the media..actaully takes off-air..the good stuff
repeating add nausium/names of those doing that most foul..nighly

MORE MURDERS..in one night on tv
than ACTUALLY..commited..

we dont got enough..fear
pulp fiction..ideas out there..

*RUBBISH-IN..RUBISH-OUT*
hate CREEPS-in.

curse's..upon the media//when it went private
they got all the peace stuff..[im presuming...
when we had it..it was for only news..

but back to these criminals..victimes of their own iignorance
look at that batman movie dude..you could see he was totally confused..the game wasnt giving him kudoss/dross/points for his skill of the kil

batman loves vilonce
dont name crims..lable their faces
[its time to update your reviled face again today

but the more we do to them
the more they cost us..and you cant legislate niceness

so

MAKE IT LIKE THE NEVER WERE BORN

but..dont lock them up..brain wash them..
and put them to use

i often thought foreign..and national aid..[put them in the never never...recognition society..is a thing we give all

if ya not with us your against us..a dead loss
plus a huge lifetime cost in jail..so we could..for only 2 dollars per day//pay others..to watch carefully..these lifers

but also care for..the brain dead or old..
ie..bacward/primative nations get our aid..by handeling our bad problems..giving them a more suitable environment as suits their vile nature..as revealed by their vile crimes..

l;ike take civilisation from them
not make comfortable hotels /capitalist prisons..lol.for em..

while our old people die..by adverse reation to presribed drugs..killing old people..is a huge ongoing slaughter
in old folks homes..[the same thing as a prison..but much like a dog pound..the nicer ones live longer

its true
but dont see no cops raiding no old peoples death houses

everyday..as many as bryant killed
\get put down..with drugs in hospitals old peoples homes..but not prisons?

we say TO THOSE..taking our problem
this beast..number xxxre..is not to be trusted..he is etc etc..

reveal..*FULL DETAILS what this animal; is/was HERE*

..the tribe gets the advantages of a civilised/educated..'person'..
no one trust's..!..but who can redeem by raissing good people..into civility..all watched live time via web cams..mobile devises..via one single com tower

they are there to allow then a new name
the old one is dead/gone..no more EVER*

nannjy can teach you
..who must prove him/her self WORTHY..*
the higher civilities..

[like that pole should get life..internationally for murder of so man

30 years is a joke
he get fan mail..setting up the next killer

so send where no mail goes..give aid for their comfort
trusting they be of use there..as they are of no use 'here'

that they CAN adopt the outcast*as one of them
or just watch him for us

next

also the STUPIDITY..of locking bread winners AWAY from their family
clearly when cops get involved..the problem is the whole family/peers

lock em all up..sort the trash..but keep the family together
send them overseas..as a unit*..[seems criminals love holiday camps.so send the WHOLE FAMILY unit away..not just the criminal CAUGHT THIS TIME*

lets go further//our old people attended by capitalists..for capital gain/medicated into early deaths...THIS IS GOING TO FAIL*..must end

WHY ARNT POLICE POLICING OLD PEOPLES HOMES

anyhow as usual i got a cure..holidays..we borrow your 4 bed..3 bed or whatever house..and we give you equal or better occomidation on floating holiday cruises

much like the barges of old..but sightseeing gambling arround the world..the better off on better quality whine

\anyhow..so how do i get govt to restore my only means of income
without begging them..i gave them..some of their best ideas..and my reward..cut off my base pension..

just cause i fight the lawyers in their own courts..visited many of their jails as a client...al because they declared war on kids using a plant..BUT CAUSE OF THAT LIE..now drugs..thrue drugs..usually some powerder/pill or liquid..will addict your kid

or send your kid..off to die in war
if it wasnt for thye drug money..[THE ONLY NEW*..money..going into banks..the whole lawyer /public servant union two paryty farce would have fell long ago..

little mention is made of the facts..pirates..voted for their captain
demonic aurto-crazey..the deevils love it so

socialism for capitalists*
lol

feel like dorethy in the land of oz
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continues