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Parental Rights - what are they?

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In the paper today was a story on the trial of a woman who abandoned her children in a car at a service station shortly after having injected speed.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/runaway-mum-vickie-barrett-high-on-speed-when-she-abandoned-daughters-and-disappeared/story-e6freoof-1226163955809

I think she got off very lightly, but that's not the point of this thread. At the end of the story there is a report on the magistrate's sentencing remarks, among which is this: "``By leaving your children asleep in an unlocked car, you certainly gave up all of your parental rights on that night.’’".

So that prompted me to ask the obvious question: what exactly are the "rights" of parents referred to by the Magistrate?

Can anyone enlighten me?
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 3:31:25 PM
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i can only try to guess anti
but it seems like he might be refering to a version of abandonment
[though clearly locking up the car and taking the keys would refute that premise]

abandonment means to desert or leave PERMANENTLY
clearly mum intended to return

but your general question asks re parental rights
well we dont got none..we got custodial privledges[not rights]

we are REQUIRED to inform govt of everything
from income to birth..marriage to motering
because we legally have been declared incompitant..[wards of the state]

and thus need to inform our nanny
and beg nanny..to do anything

and we unthinkingly obey..every time
we are asked to put our mark here...so we put our mark[of the beast]..upon another fiorm making application[apply means beg]
everytime we beg for advantages..UNDER the many acts

meaning the act rules..over us UNDER the act
so cause we begged to be under the births deaths marriages act
we fall under the act

buty whats the use telling you you begged
then got what you begged for

[by law
a begger is PRESUMED to know..for what we begged]

we wanted a nanny to tell us what to do
when to do it..[heck in just voting you begged to fall under that act
and by voting you chose who would act on your behalf..[ie who will be the next nanny]

i just turned off parlement question time
it was so much like courts...with the lawyer saying this
the other ignoring what was said..calling for the next guiliteen
next case please

its funny bob brown noser used to rally against cuiliteens
till he finally got some serfs under him..now that ninny remains mute.
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 10:47:38 AM
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Antiseptic yes! she got off lightly.
If she knows, and she may not, how disgusting her act was, if she does not she got of lightly.
A mother, son in very real mental health danger, suffering from drug induced paranoia.
Watching this victim of her parenting a life not truly started, suffer.
Sits in hospital, drinking Wine and Orange juice.
And we let the PC dragon continue to harm, not mum, she is past caring , our kids.
We condemn future generations, by compliance with? the human rights of every one.
Except the kids.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 11:05:10 AM
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Dear Antiseptic,

With parental rights come parental
responsibilities. Which is what the mother reneged on
and thus the judgement in her case.

Parental responsibilities is all the rights, duties, powers,
responsibility and authority which by law a parent of a child
has in relation to the child. Which means that the parent is
recognised in the eyes of the law as having all the legal
powers to make appropriate decisions in relation to the
upbringing of the child.

This includes protecting the child from harm. Providing the
child with food, clothing, a place to live, financially
support the child, providing them with medical care as needed,
and so on.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 11:15:50 AM
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Yes, what rights?

Fathers can be casually deprived of any "right" to see/keep/influence their kids, so casually, on the strength of not much, that it might be that there are none such recognised by law.

Similarly child protection efforts can easily displace dysfunctional parents and substitute something worse. Actual "rights" would surely impede this in many ways.

Could it be whole legal system recognises no "rights", natural or otherwise, of parents?

Rusty
Posted by Rusty Catheter, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 12:54:24 PM
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I think your rights as a parent are seriously diminished by taking drugs . Anything that impairs your mental status is a failure of your parental rights. Those kids could have been taken from the parent, as a consequence of her actions.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 2:14:04 PM
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