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Marxism - Leninism

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Stern,

So, it would seem that some tolerance and/or preference of illegal activity in the real capitalist world? (other systems too, of course)

Thanks for the Pinto example.

I certainly hope that illegal/dangerous practices by installers are prosecuted. I guess WorkCover will go the installers' principals, rather than admit guilt. Given the community attitude (labor or liberal), I felt Garrett should at least been sin-binned to the Back Benches.

Have you ever seen the movie, "Man Who Sued God"? Back c. 1930s/40s, there was a New Zealand rail bridge disaster. The Act of God provision was used to avoid payouts. I tried, but couldn't find it, from a quick check on the internet
Posted by Oliver, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 7:27:11 PM
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Dear Olly,

If it's the movie I'm thinking of, just
google, movie, and the title, and it should
come up. It stars - Billy Connelly and
Judy Davies. Great stuff!

By the way, Thank You for your summation
of Marx. You explain it so much better
Dear Prof!
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 7:40:07 PM
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Hi Foxy,

Love your posts here and elsewhere.

I'm also amuzed Billy Connelly now is the front person for ING.

What happened in 1917 argrian Russsia could be described as Revolutionary Socialism. In more advanced countries it is interesting to noted that Marx in Amsterdam (1872) siad:

"...But we assert the way to assert" our goals will "not be the same evrywhere... the institutions of, the manners, and the customs of various countries must be considered; and we do not deny that there are countries like England and Amercia ... I might even add Holland, where the worker may attain his object by peaceful means, But not in al countries is this case." That is a worker's result might be necessary in a capitalist democracy. Marx was mainly against political autocracies and un the Great Depression actually worked co-operativelt with the capitialists on the New Deal in the US.

All,

Please recall, I am not a Marxist or anywhere near being a Marxist, yet, I think it fair to try to represent him as history might.

Regards.
Posted by Oliver, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 7:53:04 AM
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Oliver

I can only echo Foxy's sentiments - I have learnt much about Marx thanks to you both. I have also learnt that I should be reading Marx.

PS

Whenever I see the ING commercial, I think "sell-out" particularly given Billy Connelly's origins.
Posted by Severin, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 8:34:33 AM
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Severin,

We all learn from each other.

Cheers.
Posted by Oliver, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 12:48:36 PM
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Oliver "So, it would seem that some tolerance and/or preference of illegal activity in the real capitalist world? (other systems too, of course)"

I do not think it is "tolerance" nor "preference" but simple "acceptance" that, just as people are not all the same height or weight, nor are all people "good" people and hence we have laws which of will be broken or ignored by some.

It has nothing to do with any particular political philosophy and everything to do with human nature.

One thing you cannot legislate for is human nature.

And all the nurturing in the world will never stop bad peole from happening.
Posted by Stern, Thursday, 29 July 2010 7:45:53 AM
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