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'Evergreen agriculture' wins for climate and hunger : Comments

By M.S. Swaminathan and Dennis Garrity, published 6/1/2010

Soil science and agroforestry can help tackle climate change and boost crop yields.

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What a refreshing change. An article which is unambiguously positive.

In some sense the methods described could be called a variation of Permaculture which is a a systems based method of food production that should be promoted all over the world, especially in cities.
Posted by Ho Hum, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 9:27:11 AM
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Anyone still wondering why many researchers apparently believe in AGW should read this and ask themselves: how much would the Norwegian (or any other) government shell out for crop research in Malawi if the stated goal of the researchers was merely to feed Africans, not to 'save the planet'? AGW hysteria is a convenient tool for screwing extra funding from the taxpayer for projects like these; and most people involved in the process are perfectly well aware of the fact, and know exactly how to game the system. If some government decided to spend billions protecting the world from Martians instead, we would soon see research 'proving' that fertiliser trees in Malawi provide wonderful cover from UFOs.

There's nothing wrong with projects like these as such: it's just a shame that they have to be funded through deceit.
Posted by Jon J, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 2:42:20 PM
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Yes your right , this is a verbula operation , it's a doing world , it's positive and will achieve .
But what's in it for all the fanatical Pollies and all those Climate Change Professors the Hysteria Masters climbing all over us like fleas on a feral dog .
Our Pri-Minister however might have no other means of survival , He needs that Carbon Tax to amortize his and Julia's Spending Largess.

The other aspect you omitted in your essay was to advise how your earth Culture takes anywhere from 2 to 10 years to get go and It will no be anything terrific in the desert .

But where it will work it will be exactly "The Ducks Guts" .
It has been proved in a lot of places especially in western Victoria , I think , The ABC Landline TV Program has followed the fortunes every few years for I think about 10 maybe 15 yrs perhaps . One of these guys (Tassie I think) stalls his not really a qualified creeks mostly using a Hand Shovel setting up a system that eventually makes his water run laterally around his paddock , he is magic .
Posted by ShazBaz001, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 6:51:05 PM
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*What does this mean? First, Mwinga can afford to send his ten children to school and give his family a nutritious diet. A strong crop has lifted the Mwingas out of poverty.*

Perhaps "Evergreen agriculture" now needs to teach Mwinga, that
if he has the snip after 2-3 kids, he'll need to grow a hell of a
lot less food to start with. He also might have enough money left,
to educate the ones he does have.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 6:58:17 PM
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“Mwinga harvests eight tonnes of maize per hectare - his neighbour is lucky if he gets one tonne.
What does this mean? First, Mwinga can afford to send his ten children to school and give his family a nutritious diet. A strong crop has lifted the Mwingas out of poverty”.

What fatuous enlightenment the author gives us! Fantastic – seven tonnes more produce than the original one tonne per hectare; and at the same time a new generation of eight more mouths in excess of the original two!
In the unlikely event that the education envisaged in the article will change the outlook, the extra 8 (beyond replacement) offspring will generate to an extra 32 in the following generation, and 128 in the one after that. What marvels can agricultural expertise produce to accommodate them all? Are there limits?
Back in the real world, if society is to advance, it is not by bread alone. What hope is there if the boys in these places don’t tie a knot in it – put a sock on it? If they don’t, how can such societies drag themselves out of ever-decreasing prospects? There are ways of assisting societies to get off the proliferation treadmill – it is about time they were acknowledged and put into effect, and such 10 children families as described publicly deplored.
Posted by colinsett, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 9:49:54 PM
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I came across this while researching something else:

“In 1950, Europe had three times Africa’s population. In 2050, Africa will have three time’s Europe”

But of course we all know by now, having been told fifteen times a day, all of Africa's woes are due to AGW.
Posted by Horus, Thursday, 7 January 2010 4:29:12 AM
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