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Afghanistan - echoes of an old war : Comments

By Graham Cooke, published 20/10/2009

We have played around the edges in Afghanistan for too long. If we in the West have any beliefs left, we must stand for them here.

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You're joking right? The Kiwi's weren't worry about the naive Vietnamese spreading communism, it was the sophisticated Russians!

I agree with you regarding the Iraq war. We should have really gone into Iran and Saudi Arabia. These are the 2 worst sponsors of terrorism, and utterly filthy regimes when it comes to morals and human rights.

I just hope Israel bombs Iran sooner rather than later.

I'd say George W. Bush was a visionary, seeing a world where no asylum seekers with truckloads of cash even need to fly past 100 nations only to land in Indonesia and try to get here.

We should help all of them back home and take over. They want this too, that's why they keep coming.

Only when enough people in the west have common sense and realise that these people are human beings and deserve to live a life like us, with good values, will we win this war on terror.

It will require a massive effort too. Nothing short of cultural genocide of filthy middle-eastern cultures for a start...
Posted by Benjam1n, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 3:10:37 AM
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Middle Eastern (and central Asian) violence has a lot to do with demographics. There are a lot of young men who were born in a baby boom in the 1970s and 1980s, and their societies have been unwilling or unable to find them meaningful employment. As they age and the social demographics get back into balance things will probably settle down. This isn't to say that we shouldn't be doing our best to accelerate the process -- but sending troops into remote countries where we have no conceivable military interests isn't the way.

We could do far more to improve life for Afghans and Iraqis -- and far more cheaply -- by spending the money on increased immigration and assisted settlement in Australia. Let everyone who wants to leave Afghanistan do so, provided they renounce any allegiance to fanaticism and violence: then close the borders and let the remainder sort it out between themselves.
Posted by Jon J, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 6:09:23 AM
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"This was always the right fight, where terrorism could be dealt the most telling blows; where the values of a free, multicultural world could face down those of darkness, brutality and inhumanity. If we in the West have any beliefs left, we must stand for them here."

By St George and Sir Keith this indeed be right. When good Christian men, stout of heart and true, with guns stamp upon the ground of Afghanistan at the cost of $300 billion a year - in order to rid the Taliban of a Saudi Arabian known as bin Ladin (and AQ) who is probably somewhere far away - who indeed can designate the truth?

9/11 be avenged by blood and expenditure as proof.

That Bush Jr said eliminating bin Ladin was "not important" is easily forgot. Bin Ladin is near Saudi royalty and therefore above the bullet so He lives.

But the US$700 billion a year US military and its industries need a mission and jobs and winning electorates for US politicians. Afghanistan is a necessary war for such this US system (brutally embarrassed by 9/11) and we are there as the ANZUS ally.

Afghanistan is the place of expenditure - whose people have always been amendable to democracy or communism preached with guns - not...

Saudi Arabia provided almost all of the manpower and finance for AQ for 9/11 but naturally the Western security action is in the most disposable, poorest, Muslim country available. Not in rich Saudi Arabia. Saudi responsibility matched by its ability to stabilise the oil price was never in doubt.

Indeed this is the "right fight" for those who pick the targets in no mans land, without a voice or power.

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Sunday, 25 October 2009 10:01:51 PM
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