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The Iranian elections and public diplomacy 2.0: a tale of untapped potential : Comments

By Helle Dale, published 24/6/2009

The potential of a tech-savvy approach to public diplomacy in Iran is not being realised by the US Government.

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Surely the author is not advocating the new US administration be involved in facilitating "regime change" is it? Wasn't that one of the big problems the US public (51%) had with President George W. Bush?

Perhaps President Obama's administration knows very well that replacing the current "leader" of Iran is in name only and that the country is really run behind the scenes buy the religious order of mullahs and their ilk.

The President of Iran is a figurehead,if you replace one, so what? The current "opposition" leader is still keen on Nuclear Power and presumably weapons, though he is pitching an emotional line for women's right to be freed up, it will not happen whilst the mullahs are in charge.

The author wants action, NOW! With a list of recommendations on what the US administration should do, that should make everyone very happy. Most US citizens, (51%) want the US out of world politics, which is why they voted for President Obama isn't it, he's going to fix the USA not the world.

This undertone is of course that the USA is becoming more insular and is withdrawing from running the planet to go back to being isolationist. Well it's what candidate Obama said he would do, and he's doing it, so his loyal voters must be happy. Who cares what the rest of the world wants?
Posted by rpg, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 9:55:46 AM
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Reckon the best thing Obama can do for Iran and not against is not to threaten but to more gently show that he is concerned.

That seems to be Obama's true political ability which personally was one of the first questions us aged students were asked by our tutor in political studies, how have you and your marriage partners got on?

Bit personal, I guess, but when proven, it was all about proving that successful marriage partners often make the best political leaders.

As my wife sometimes said when arguing in front of the kids.

How about us sharing the blame for a change, which goes right back to the Sermon on the Mount.

Certainly America should have much to say how much she tried to possess Iran, even to lower the Stars and Stripes to admit it.
Posted by bushbred, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 5:11:24 PM
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i rebut that us/media has a hands off approach

from
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=2720

Welcome to Destabilization 2.0,..the latest version of a program that the western powers have..been running..for decades in order to overthrow foreign,..democratically elected governments..that don’t yield to the whims of western governments..and multinational corporations.

On June 13th,..30000..“tweets”..begin to flood Twitter with live updates from Iran,..mainly using the same id pictures

YouTube is providing a..“Breaking News”..link at the top of every page..linking to the latest footage of the Iranian protests..

Ironically,..Iran was also the birthplace of the original CIA program for destabilizing a foreign government.:..It’s 1953 and democratically-elected Iranian leader..Mohammed Mossadegh..is following through on his election promises/to nationalize industry for the Iranian people,..including the oil industry,which was then controlled by the Anglo-Iranian Oil/co.

The CIA is sent into the country..to bring an end to Mossadegh’s government...They begin a campaign of terror,staging bombings and attacks on Muslim targets..in order to blame them on nationalist,secular Mossadegh.

They foster/fund..an anti-Mossadegh campaign amongst the radical Islamist elements...Finally,..the revolution that brings their favoured puppet,..the Shah,into power...

Within months..they had removed a democratically elected leader..who threatened to build up an independent,..secular Persian nation/and replaced him with a repressive tyrant..whose secret police would brutally suppress all opposition.

The campaign was a success and the lead CIA agent wrote an after-action report..describing...The pattern as was to be repeated time and time again..in country after country..(in Guatemala in 1954,in Afghanistan in the 1980s,..in Serbia in the 1990s),..but these operations leave the agency open to exposure.

What was..needed..was a different plan,..one where the western political/financial interests..puppeteering the revolution would be more difficult..to implicate in the overthrow.

Enter Destabilization..1.1...This version of the destabilization program is less messy,.offering plausible deniability..for the western powers/overthrowing a foreign government's...

It starts when the IMF moves in..to offer a bribe..to a tinpot dictator/in a third world country...to privatise/indebit

He gets 10%..in exchange for taking out an exorbitant loan..for an infrastructure project..that the country can’t afford...When the country inevitably defaults on the loan payments,..the IMF begins to take over..[continued at link]
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 24 June 2009 11:35:10 PM
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One Under God, thanks for the real historical exposure on us Western hypo' democratico's, mate.

Of course, Democratic Hypocrisy is the real term - and certainly one who has studied as much as Obama, must also know all about it.

Really, must say the whole truth makes one so ashamed, the Sermon on the Mount having brought out the real truth of the matter.

In fact, sometimes I wonder whether the wise men who influenced the young Jesus were Hellenistic teachers from the Great Library of Alexander while the lad was in Egypt with his mother.

And indeed, as a historical philosopher, if the above about the Young Jesus is just a story, let's believe it was the greatest story ever written.

Best Regards, BB, Buntine, WA.
Posted by bushbred, Thursday, 25 June 2009 5:27:15 PM
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sadly bb thats only scratching the surface..three decades ago Mir-Hossein Mousavi was waging a terrorist war..on the United States that included bloody attacks on the U.S.embassy and Marine Corps barracks in Beirut
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/2009/06/mousavi-celebrated-in-iranian.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/neo-cons-are-cheerleading-for-a-terrorist-who-helped-kill-hundreds-of-us-marines.html
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Ignorance-is-Strength-by-Paul-Craig-Roberts-090623-723.html
http://www.daily.pk/politics/politicalnews/10321-is-us-trying-to-save-agent-mehsud.html
http://www.reason.com/news/show/122023.html

early cia planning
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20090624&articleId=14082
http://www.prisonplanet.com/iranian-interior-minister-western-intelligence-behind-riots-and-unrest.html

that poor womans death was news but this womans wasnt newsworthy[double standards]
http://uruknet.com/?p=m55411&hd=&size=1&l=e
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/footage-of-iranian-womans-death-lsquoheartbreakingrsquo-14356409.html?r=RSS
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/freedom-rider-selective-sympathy-iran
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/06/24/iran.neda.death/index.html

recall when bush stole an election and the media was silent[why irsn now for weeks?]
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/special-report-iran-falls-to-us-psyops/

former sha asks israel for support
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=98844&sectionid=351020101
result
http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2009/06/23/netanyahu-75-of-the-iranians-want-regime-change/
http://thomaspainescorner.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/pentagon-rebrands-protest-as-%e2%80%9clow-level-terrorism%e2%80%9d/
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/the-western-media-having-a-heyday-with-iran/
lol
http://news.antiwar.com/2009/06/23/israeli-protesters-block-humanitarian-aid-to-gaza/
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/stolen-palestinian-properties-being-sold-by-american-companies/

some histry
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html
http://www.forward.com/articles/8807/
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=47347
http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=1338
http://revolutionarypolitics.com/?p=1330

argentina's coup's[same/same]
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10615.shtml
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P3-1570611041.html
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/index.html
iran post the cia coup[last time]
http://uwmpost.com/article/52/12/2767-Avoiding-catastrophe-with-Iran
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 25 June 2009 8:59:20 PM
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One Under God, at least scratching the surface can be the base of something more powerful and peaceful, mate.

Certainly you have published examples of how more
peaceful ways are unsuccessful.

Alternatively, then, it seems the world still needs to be policed.

But in what way, and by whom, that is the question?

As Immanuel Kant gave point to after his disappointment when Napoleon changed from an Enlightenment general to tyrant.

The concept of Liberty cannot be conceived by one personage alone but by honest Reasoning through Public Communion
Posted by bushbred, Friday, 26 June 2009 11:42:02 AM
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