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A global government : Comments

By Dino Cesta, published 22/4/2009

The global economic crisis of the 21st century has exposed the weaknesses of sovereign nation-states.

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My sentiments exactly, thank you for putting them so well. But it has been two and a half thousand years since Socrates. Given another thousand or so, and a few more dire perils affecting all, we should be able to get somewhere. I wonder if it is worth trying to shape up the UN as we nudge toward this ideal, or whether it would be better to scrap it and start again.
Posted by Fencepost, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 12:49:37 PM
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The last thing we need is a World Government. The diversity and somehwhat chaotic nature of the world makes it interesting. Tne idea that we operate under the same rules, laws, cultures (governments generally find it very diificult to deal with different cultural approaches) is quite horrific to me.

Take the rose-coloured glasses off and realise that when you have many governments, an issue can be kept alive, when there is only one government, an issue can be ignored far more effectively.It might sound wonderful, but it would create resentment and unrest throughout the world.

We should stop trying to homogenise everything and accept that differences are often positive and that they encourage broadening of thought. Having one government telling us all how it should be is not a positive approach by any means.
Posted by Phil Matimein, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 1:26:34 PM
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Until the deficiencies of the UN are brought into the light no one will trust a world government.
We need to sort out corruption, nepotism and the basic oligarchy concerns.
We are in a full world now. No more escape via conquering new lands/peoples...unless you brand them as inhuman and use the UN to justify invasion of course...
I'd prefer a return to city-states with confederations enforcing freedom of movement.
Posted by Ozandy, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 1:58:05 PM
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Whilst an acceptable ideal, the only time a world government would work is when we have communication with others in the universe or colonised the solar system or elsewhere. The ideological human sees themselves as unique, universally important and right. There is no humility, understanding or acceptance that we are not unique, are unimportant and definitely not right. Once we have contact with other life, humans will begin to understand how illusionary are their beliefs. Then we may begin to learn to live together, instead of against each other.

Until then there's no common ground with which to base world government on. The major problem is religiosity, each religious group and their various factions, want laws, morals and approaches according to their belief. We see world wide the results of this approach.

Until humanity evolves beyond ideology, nothing will change unless we have a one world belief. I'm sure everyone would love that and quickly agree as to which one. I nominate the belief in nothing, it's simple, easy to understand, doesn't need defending or explaining and can't be argued against as there's nothing to argue about or disagree with.

I thought the author summed up his understanding of the subject by declaring,

<”While a major step has been achieved by those countries at the G20 summit in overcoming the financial and economic crisis, it nonetheless excludes the remaining 15 per cent of countries which contribute to global trade.”>

Now that's fantasy land in stereo.
Posted by stormbay, Thursday, 23 April 2009 7:00:28 AM
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Well said stormbay!
We are indeed children in our nursery, and until we learn to stand on our own two feet in space we are just sucking on nature's teat.
We need to learn to live on sunlight (energy) and rock (chemicals, building materials, etc).
This involves creating ecosystems and maintaining them via technology to maintain the balances (Nitrogen, Carbon, Phosphorus, Calcium, temperature, water) and natures own technology, life. (100% "natural" ecosystem, ie. terraforming, is unlikely)
Instead of natures rapists, we need to be it's custodians.
I too believe religion is major hinderance to this by encouraging dispute, discouraging maturity of thought and generally fighting science, which is simply the search for common truth as distinct from the faith version of truth which depends largely on your place and time of birth.
The attack on science in the US and Australia is unforgivable and any religious folk out there concerned with truth and wisdom should be fighting this. Secular folk, of course, should fight the influence of ancient superstitions as part of good sense. We don't allow human sacrifice, why should we allow child abuse in the name of faith? Creationism is schools is the tip of the iceberg. We cannot afford a dark age at this point.
Sadly the future "world government" will be a small group of survivors from the inevitable calamity caused by: nature (comet, volcano, ?), or humans (war, famine, disease, climate) I put disease in the "human" category because disease *should* be largely controllable these days...if it were not for the stupidity promoted through ignorance such as the Pope's condom debarcle.
More science, less religion.
More empowerment, less bullying posing as "leadership", minimal governance.
To ask for a World government at this time is like asking for a massive World Bank...kind of putting all your eggs in one very dodgy basket.
Posted by Ozandy, Thursday, 23 April 2009 9:44:16 AM
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We have a series of big problems we can solve only in International level but our leaders are not mature, responsible enouph for a global government.
When they boycot the human rights conference in Geneva you can imagine what could happen if they had to solve real, hot problems.
Our governments are not much better from the people who elected them!
Antonios Symeonakis
Adelaide
Posted by AnSymeonakis, Friday, 24 April 2009 12:10:05 AM
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