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Nationalism and globalism; tyranny and human rights : Comments

By Graham Nicholson, published 20/4/2009

The global village - as never before in history most of the problems facing the planet are now global.

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“People of the world - look at Berlin, where a wall came down, a continent came together, and history proved that there is no challenge too great for a world that stands as one.”

What did the ‘world’ have to do with the Berlin wall coming down and east and West Germany being united? The world was just the same as it had always been before reunification, and it is still the same now.

Perhaps we have to accept the statement as just another from a loose-lipped, inexperienced American Senator who is now the loosed-lipped, inexperienced American President.

“While Australia ponders in isolation its future and considers, for example, whether it should have a national Bill of Rights, there is little discussion and debate about the sort of future global world we would all like to live in…” writes Graham Nicholson. But, who says that we would “like to live in” a global world? As he points out, globalisation hasn’t worked they way he might think it should work. But globalisation has nothing to do with what “we” want. Globalisation is to do with power: the power of a few maniacs to rule the world and profit from it. Globalisation equals world government, which would/will soon take Australia’s mind of our own problems and gradually remove our sovereignty.

The example of the European Union should be enough to demonstrate the dangers of making the entire world one big club run by people who know nothing about conditions and the desires of people living in individual countries. Yet, the maniac currently posing as our PM – when he is not strutting around globally – wants to tie us to some sort of Asian equivalent.

We need leaders for Australia, not the world. Forget Dr. Evatt and the ridiculous UN, which gives some idea of what world government would be like - chaos without freedom.
Posted by Leigh, Monday, 20 April 2009 10:57:10 AM
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"None of us want a future where the world is governed by the few for the benefit of the few, some sort of new global tyranny over which the mass of humanity have little or no control."

What like we have now you mean?

Seems to me that the vast majority of people in all countries would be happy to co operate with each other. It is our adversarial political systems that cause the problems. There will always be some out of power politician/s ready to jump up and cause a stink if they think it will personally advantage them. Nevermind the damage to the country or even the world that dosent matter to the egotists who become politicians.

Globalisation is a good thing as far as bringing people together and communicating but combined with the remnants of nationalism and self interest it is perverted by business to be an exploitative mechanism to enrich the worlds wealthy and entrench their power by transferring jobs and production to low wage countries with the help of undemocratic governments oppressing and persecuting their own people.

Australia is one of the best placed countries in the world to take a lead on world affairs and act as a facilitator and mediator. We are still well liked by most other countries (despite the coward years) and we are respected as an advanced democratic country that (mostly) acts morally and with decency. We are a (mostly) successful multicultural society. We have close ties to Asia and the US, Europe (well England really) and the Pacific. We should do more to bring parties together and find ways to move forward on democracy, human rights and co operation between countries
Posted by mikk, Monday, 20 April 2009 11:49:02 AM
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The UN is a joke. Mainly because it is not democratic. The security council is a farce. The 5 winners from WWII and a few rotating member countries that can veto anything put forward by the rest of the world! Who could see that as anything but undemocratic and the reason the whole institution is a shambles. The rest of the world sure sees it that way.

The last thing we need is a world government. We need less rulers not more. More communication between people and less obedience to those in charge (who are incompetent and greedy) and maybe one day the whole world can be, at least a little bit, fairer and more inclusive. Who knows it might just become a bit less violent too. Hmmm then again maybe not remembering who has all the guns.
Posted by mikk, Monday, 20 April 2009 11:49:16 AM
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A good article addressing the reality of globalisation and current ideological approaches to the future. Sadly any form of ideology and sanity, doesn't seem to mix at all.

<”Mass violence and human rights abuses have continued to plague the world, and are signs that the prevailing world order is lamentably defective.”>

There can be no other outcome from globalisation, humans are individual's, not clones, even though many exhibit clone like traits. If you don't address the individuality of life, any form of government or controls will fail.

<”The issues involved are not just political, legal and economic, but also social, ethical and spiritual in nature. In the process, we need to look widely for guidance. We could do well to consider those writers, philosophies and religions who, and which, have constructively addressed these issues.”>

If the above had constructively addressed these problems, why are they getting worse. Religion's the major controlling factor in all of this, 95% of world leaders are religiously controlled , as are those controlling economic and social directions. Writing and philosophy are fine mental outflows, but do nothing for successful outcomes, they are just babble. It's what we do that counts, not think or believe.

Globalisation is like driving a glass bus over a cliff, you see everything coming and know how fragile the bus is. Yet everyone's arguing about who should be driving, when to stop the bus and doing nothing about going over the cliff.
Posted by stormbay, Monday, 20 April 2009 11:56:52 AM
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There is a quote from the founder of the Bahai Faith in the window of their Glenferrie shop in Melbourne stating there will not be any Peace on planet Earth until everyone acts on the profound presumption that Humankind is an Intrinsic Unity.

He was quite correct.

Plus this profound idea of the essential UNITY of Humankind has been an essential feature of the Teaching and Lived Demonstration of all the Realized Saints, Yogis, Mystics, and Sages, who have been the source and inspiration of all the great cultures of humankind altogether. And of the PRACTICING schools of esoteric Spirituality.

The essential calling or core communication at the root of ALL of these Realized Saints etc, and of all religions is to love God with all of ones heart, mind, and body, and THEN on that basis to practice self-transcending love in all relationships.

None of these great cultures or practicing schools were founded by benighted "realists" such as Leigh.

Meanwhile once again these two references give a very clear-eyed and open-hearted assessment as to where the world is at in 2009. And why continuation of the old ways WILL inevitably lead to a global catastrophe.

http://www.dabase.org/p2anthro.htm

http://www.dabase.org/p3family.htm

You can either curse and thereby increase the darkness, or you can light a candle.
Posted by Ho Hum, Monday, 20 April 2009 1:19:01 PM
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By far the greatest abusers of human rights have been and are the members of the United Nations.

It is a fallacy to assume that the member states of the UN 'represent' their subject population for no other reasons than that they claim a monopoly of the use of force over them, which is what a state boils down to. Nor is majority rule any guarantee of sense or virtue. Majorities can be wrong just as much as minorities.

The challenge is the age-old one 'who shall guard the guards'? There is not the slightest reason to trust the world's worst and mightiest abusers with yet more power over us all. Far from dreaming up new powers for world government, we should be asking what justifies government in any given action, and how we can minimise the use of this violent and anti-social behaviour. That is the way to a world of peace and freedom.

The only justification for government is to enforce a general ban on force and fraud. Any other purpose just leads eventually to a general slide to fascism such as we are witnessing in the United States. There is no such thing as a human right to the fruits of someone else's efforts taken under compulsion and coercion.
Posted by Wing Ah Ling, Monday, 20 April 2009 4:11:18 PM
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