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The morals of making money : Comments

By Tanveer Ahmed, published 4/11/2008

The return of a sense of scepticism about the innate moral worth of money may be the most valuable outcome of recent events.

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Tanveer,
I’m sure most people would agree with you. However I think your analysis is a bit shallow. In truth Money has the moral integrity of a handful of bandages…none what so ever.
It is what one can do with those bandages and money that is the issue.
The increasing issue is amorality of uncontrolled capitalism and its hand ‘maidens’ (sic) (whores) that seed the public with self doubts that can only be mollified by consumerism. I suggest you read “Afluenza’. For a view of tactics read Naomi Klien's book "no brand"
E.g. Price is NOT necessarily an indication of quality. Its all to do with margines. See the Coke test.

We are conned by advertising to confuse ‘wants with needs’ and one this is achieved the path to consumerism and debt is cleared. The losers ane inevitably the people. Yet again victims/slaves to inanimate creation (s) (tools), capitalism, consumerism, debt and corporatism.
Posted by examinator, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 12:40:21 PM
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some great points my worthy other

medicine has a high calling [but like economic theory has many flaws]
and while i am saddend that a healer cannot even for his/her service have a comfortable life ,

BUT there is a bigger thing than money to be learned from the eCONoMIST envelopmeant of the cash bonus and this rush to fiat paper

like medicine by br-other ,#
take the cost of medicine [the big reason docters /nurses etc get only minimal funds[we have industries built arround finding cures for cancer and building ever more BUILDINGS ,but not the staff[but restricted ONLY to certain areaS THAT GET THE FUNDS]

there are many cures for cancer [web search finds them] but the industry getting dead people estates when they die [to find a cure to what docters let kill them][
noting most cancer patients die FROM the non cure[painfull and expensive NON cure]

ok take heart disease [where one disposable [single use] catheter costs more than you the docter get in a week [yet that plaque in peoples arteries is only scurvey

[thats right eating your vitimin c could save trillions in wasted funding and operations enriching big buisnes people with a lie [that only seeks to treat the symptom but never cure the cause [never cure the disease [scurvy [vit c definency]

yet stroke medication gets an anual subsidy over 1 billion bucks [for the heart presure pills alone, add the cost of surgery and hospitalisation ,and the pennies over worked docters get [noting over worked means they are TOO busy to check for real cures [thus accepting the pill SELLERS words [and commisions] so busy that it stops them finding the REAL CURES ]

anyhow money payed for EVERY war
was the reason for EVERY theft
and the majority of criminal behaviour

to who much was given
much was expected
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 1:53:36 PM
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One under god.
Too true money paid for all these evils but it didn't cause them any more than the rock used to kill one of our Australopithcine ancestors.
If I open an African bush clinic dispensing Yen instead of medicine will it save lives. Can they eat it? Money has no intrinsive value it's what we can do with money that gives it worth.
There is money enough in the world to eliminate poverty; there is food to feed everyone; yet there there is poverty and hunger.
self interest and greed! to facilitate these we have tools and concepts like debt,consumerism et al.
It is our priorities in wealth accumulation and what this can do for us that is the cause.
Posted by examinator, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 5:00:14 PM
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There is nothing inherently wrong with working to make money.The evil evolves when you are totally absorbed with making it,that you care not for the people whom you enslave and take advantage of.Google Stephen Lendman"Dirty Secrets of the Temple."

How the worm has turned.Employees at Macquarie Bank were encouraged to buy their shares at a discounted rate.Many borrowed to buy shares.Now they have no job and shares that will not cover the cost of the loan.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 6:01:09 PM
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Morals and money? Oxymoron is it not?

Given money doesn't actually exist and is simply a theory turned into practice anything that puts money above any other issue is mistaken. It's just a token to allow our simple human minds to understand relative values in transactions. Even then most of us are too thick to really understand that exchange value and tend to believe what the seller tells us.

Talk about dumb people, myself included. But that Sydney Harbour Bridge was an absolute bargain!
Posted by DavoP, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 8:11:11 PM
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thanks examiner for your reply,however i will agree to disagree

think of putting mercury in your flue shot
[why? to stop is spoiling.
ie they put poisen[mercury]

[side affect lowering our iq ,and causing dementia and altzheimers [that seem to be rising[via the mercury in vacinations]

poisen saves the cost of making more flue vacine [that has yet to get the right[current flue thus is totally useless ,the last years strain it is based on is out of date to the current 'flue'every time

yet it gets marketed[for the income]

like du-pont having seeds that cant reproduce thus MUST be bought each year from guess who for cash]

[no cash no crop]

[100,000 indian farmers killed themselves because they lent at exorbitant intrest from the money lenders[who else]
to buy infiriour seeds needing extra costs fertilisers ,and other monsanto poisens]then the harvest failed[but the money changers wanted their blood[cash]

what of sacrin being replaced by the carconogenic sweetener known to cause cancer[found in every stick of chewing gum]or of lead in our fuel[removed and replaced by a known carconogenic to put in the cancer causing lead replacement in its place]

of mobile phones[and cell phone microwave towers]giving us brain tumour's and other cancers

or of the very high definition streaming[gifted to those holding the free to air spectrum monopoly],that is too band consuming to be caried effectivly via the current broadband option's

that in itself is so expensive to bypass the server restrictions [put on our downloads to get us into the extra cost options][for the love of cash[not service]

the making of fair return is admirable

there is nothing wrong with money except govt has to lend it

from the very banker monopoly who's sole franchise is fractionally creating fiat paper and credit out of a simple promise to pay[anything you signed]

[it disperses to its fellow boys club members to buy up the real economy[and politics ,law, medicine,recources,water rights, utilities, electric ,phones ]

[what can money NOT buy, or corrupt]

recall the quote [give me the right to create the money[and i care not who governs]by 'wrathchild
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 8:58:12 PM
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