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Our culture of death : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 31/10/2008

Human rights are used both to condemn murder and torture and to give permission for self murder and the murder of the unborn.

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More Christian drivel.
Opposed to contraception AND abortion.
Why is the sex drive so strong,is God a fool?.
Why didn't God make us able to switch off our fertility at will?.

I will not die in pain when my time comes.I will have it all worked out.

Pain is for Christians.Their hero is a man being tortured to death.
Some even wear a model on a string around their necks.

I am an atheist electrician.Think I will buy a model electric chair
with cooking man to wear.
Even if I can't buy one it will be fun to ask.
Posted by undidly, Friday, 31 October 2008 9:19:29 AM
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What's most disturbing is that none of this sanctimonious rubbish is intended to reduce suffering. Instead, it's a rigid enforcement of dogma so that the faithful don't have to question their comfortable beliefs.

Morally and intellectually this is no different to the persecution of Galileo and the suppression of science during the Dark Ages. If Sellick's brand of Christianity had its way, Australia would be a mirror image of Iran.
Posted by Sancho, Friday, 31 October 2008 9:57:53 AM
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Peter Sellick is more interested in the ‘people-left-behind’ than he is in the blighted souls who feel it necessary to seek euthanasia or to take their own lives by whatever means available to them. He contradicts what he assumes to be Philip Nitschke’s “view of humanity” – the individual existing alone and making decisions based on that ‘aloneness’. Sellick claims to ‘know’ that this is wrong. Well, he ‘knows’ nothing of the sort; it is just his opinion.

When people get to the stage of wanting death, they are very much alone, and there is nothing that anyone else can do about it – short of brutishly, physically preventing them from their actions, of course, for their own selfish reasons.

Calling euthanasia or suicide ‘murder’ is nonsense, particularly coming from someone who refers to: “…the increasingly silly language of human rights…”

The author’s florid language regarding abortions is another abuse of language and a rather childish way of scaring anyone silly enough to listen to him; and his rambling about ethics is all about him, nobody else.

A “Culture of death”, “Self murder and the murder of the unborn…” is the stuff of bible-bashing, tub-thumping ranting against the rights of individuals.

Mr. Sellick has the right to live life the way he wants to, and die (hard) they way he wants to, if he is not taken suddenly as most of us would wish to go. So to do the rest of us have that right. We don’t need him and his “Christian tradition” to tell us that we do not have that right.
Posted by Mr. Right, Friday, 31 October 2008 10:07:58 AM
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Sells,
You and your religious kind live in glass houses. Your leaders live in palaces yet 25-30,000 people, mainly the young, die of starvation and preventable diseases every day on a planet which day by day groans louder under the burden of excessive population. You all 'rabbit on' on issues of no real significance.
It would be much better if contraception was available world wide so that humans can enjoy their sex life while population growth and total consumption is brought to sustainable levels. An occasional accident can be aborted before the development of a personality or even a conciousness and each woman has the opportunity usually to try for a replacement child at a time which suits her and her partner.
I think much of the problem is the belief in an everlasting soul, a concept as ridiculous as the concept of original sin. When I go I will be finished except in minds and behaviour of the people I have had an influence on. My aim is that for me that influence will be to the net benefit of the species. Peter Singer had the right ideas in 'How are we to live?"
Posted by Foyle, Friday, 31 October 2008 10:16:02 AM
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Peter,

In your view, does a country have the right to send its citizens to war, when there is no existing direct threat? Vietnam?
Posted by Oliver, Friday, 31 October 2008 10:26:41 AM
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Some good points but essentially a load of drivel.

What has the "culture of natality via Abraham to Jesus" got to do with life in the year 2008?

And besides which christianity has always been involved in the wholesale slaughter of others. Such being the inevitable manifestation of its drive to worldly power and control.

And of its claim to be the "one true faith/way/revelation". We are the only ones that possess the "truth", and by golly we are going to convert every one else to this "one true way", using whatever means we can.

And while we tell you about our marvellous "saviour" we will be very busy stealing all of your resources and destroying your cultures too.
And murdering you, if you resist.
Of course we might "baptise" you (so that your "soul" might be saved) while we are loading you on to the slave ships.
How many millions were there?

This image sums it all up in stark detail

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~/library/Orozco/panel13.html

Again this reference tells us the truth about the mountains of corpses and rivers of blood INEVITABLY produced by the christian death meme.

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com

Speaking of death memes. How many people place a crucifix with the broken body of Jesus on their dinner tables?
And why not?
Because it is essentially an image of suffering, death and cruelty.

If in any other time and place,you came across a bloodied and totured body nailed to a cross you would quite rightly be horrified.

So why not be appropriately horrified by the essentially grotesque image of the broken/tortured body of "jesus" nailed to a cross?

Strange fruit indeed!
Posted by Ho Hum, Friday, 31 October 2008 10:48:10 AM
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