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Romancing the ban: censorship of porn will never work : Comments

By Sebastian Strangio, published 10/3/2008

We are deluded if we think that by banning porn sexual violence will evaporate overnight.

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Is the premise of your argument that men are innately sexual violent and that porn is a necessary evil to quell the violent nature of men? As a woman I find this argument unconvincing and deeply disturbing. Are you saying that men are unable to conduct themselves peacefully in society without access to porn?

You provide numerous examples of how porn benefits men and therefore should be supported by the community, but fail to mention the benefits a ban on porn would bring to women. I would have expected, at least, a token acknowledgment that porn does harm women. One good example might have been this weekend’s news report on the poor young woman gang raped by 10 men. During the gang raped the perpetrators masturbated over their victim. This scene could have come straight out of a Bukake porn video.
Posted by Les, Monday, 10 March 2008 10:03:15 AM
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Lets face it porn has nothing to do with eroticia - it is violent and debasing not only of women but also of men - as if men just cannot help themselves.

What do people find 'enjoyable' about porn? From the little I've seen it's more being as degrading as possible.
Posted by rivergum, Monday, 10 March 2008 10:13:23 AM
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Rivergum
You are obviously out of touch with reality.

Sex shops are a booming industry and, although I don't frequent them I have been into a couple.

What amazes me is that customers of these shop often purchase items that have up to 1000%+ mark up, yet they scavange throgh the supermarkets looking for 'mark downs' as they claim they are broke.

Furthermore, porn sites are amoung they highest money earners on the web.

I don't defend them but these are the facts.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 10 March 2008 11:01:13 AM
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Rivergum.. at least we agree there.

PORN by nature is degrading. Yes..I've seen my share of it, and find nothing in it worthy of anything except the utter condemnation for the reasons you gave.

The thing for the objective observer to note, is the facial expressions.
They deliberately seek to convey the following:

-I'm dirrrrty (come..be dirrrtty with me now)
-I'm badddddd (yes yes.. WE can be very 'bad' now)
-I dont careeeeeee (and why should you)

Catering to the portrayed male lust the woman is portrayed as lapping it all up as if it was paradise itself.... she is loving being the object of his "dirrrrrty, lustful advances"

Participating sympathetically in viewing it.. is to also degrade one's self and take another step into darkness and filth.

If you peel back the layers.. we are really just expressing our unfulfilled relationship deficiencies in a cheap easy way, by absorbing pornography.

To me.. it is simply one of many a sign of alientation from God and His best for us.

Pornographic portrayals of sexual relationships are in fact the very opposite of Godly portrayals.

To the secularist porn is "whatever turns you on" most likely, but this is also far removed from the best we can have.

The best response to porn and what it portrays, is repentance to God and His grace and a renewal of our minds and wills in Christ.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 10 March 2008 11:10:44 AM
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Sebastian Strangio, you've engaged in exactly the same logical fallacy that you criticize Caroline Norma for. Norma confused causation and correlation in seeing high porn use amongst drink spikers, you confuse causation and correlation when you see a decrease in sex crimes and an expansion of the internet.

You both seem to have a horrifyingly negative view of men.
Posted by Kieran, Monday, 10 March 2008 11:54:12 AM
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I would dispute that porn causes violence and social dislocation.

The main effect of porn is that is causes the consumer to masturbate, and thus lose interest in sex. It is a threat to the power of women, as their ability to barter sex for other benefits is correspondingly reduced. It is interesting to note the number of young men who remark that they are not interested in the effort involved (both financially and socially) in attracting women, when they can get their rocks off with a good porno.

As other posters have remarked, all efforts to restrict porn will be futile, and are more an example of politicians wishing to be seen doing something than having anything actually achieved. It has been so for centuries; the elite in all societies wish to allow just enough sex that will produce the next generation, with the surplus sexual energy being diverted into channels seen as more suitable to the elite.

So what has changed?
Posted by plerdsus, Monday, 10 March 2008 12:06:52 PM
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