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Critical lessons from the mill debacle : Comments

By Mike Bolan, published 21/12/2007

After the 'fast track' approval process for Gunns itís time the federal government defined states' roles and responsibilities.

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One thing we can be sure about is that Gunn's will fell 200,000 ha of native forest at a time when we as a planet are facing crisis time with Global Warming. Simply put no problem exists if 200,000 Australians now plant a hectre of trees to compensate for Gunn's rape and pillage both the Howard and Rudd Governments should be throughly ashamed of themselves.
Posted by SHONGA, Friday, 21 December 2007 2:23:42 PM
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SHONGA
I don't know how many hectares Gunns are going to fell, but I know that the same area will be immediately regenerated to grow as a new forest. That is not deforestation - or rape and pillage as you put it - and if their operations are conducted sustainably ie. the annual harvest volume = the anual growth volume of forest growth - there should be no net carbon loss. I suppose it doesn't do much for anti-forestry campaigns to acknowledge that trees grow.
Posted by MWPOYNTER, Friday, 21 December 2007 4:53:32 PM
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I tried hard to read this but concluded the writer can not be serious?
How can anyone make $2 billion out of something with a budget of the same amount? What sort of margin is there in this business?
Had a look at Poyry's web page. (Google Poyry) They seem to be consultants and not builders? The mill cost is 2x annual sales. How does this work?
Posted by John Allen, Friday, 21 December 2007 6:05:36 PM
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the author hasn't learned any critical lesson, much less added any new information. this is just another demonstration that ozzie plebs haven't grasped the fact that they are second class people, helpless pawns in the hands of their masters in the political class.

read my lips! (so to speak) no one is going to run oz for the benefit of the majority of ozzians, until oz is run by the will of the majority of ozzians. that's democracy. until oz gets off it's knees and sends the pollies to join the m'lud's in history, your nation will be run for the benefit of your masters: those few hundred politicians who sell their power to corporations like gunns, for the money to buy the votes to hold their power.

that's the critical lesson. but i have come to believe that evolution has removed from the british/ozzian genome the capacity to understand and value democracy, that this nation can not recover from hundreds of years of breeding for submission to your 'betters'. so the critical lesson is unattainable.

what should be the fall-back position? fatalism, sport, and celebrity news. and each night before you sleep, pray you die before ozzians are moved fron the paddock to the slave pens, and the table.

or just cry "she'll be right, buddy", and turn on 'american(oz franchise) idol'.
Posted by DEMOS, Saturday, 22 December 2007 7:04:19 AM
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MYPOYNTER,
I am reassured by your post that a tree a thousand years old felled will be replaced with a seed which will have = greenhouse conversion rate, clever that.
Posted by SHONGA, Saturday, 22 December 2007 8:56:02 AM
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Mike Bolan has once again dredged up all the old arguments against the pulp mill which were shown to be completely without foundation.

In the absence of the pulp mill the 200 000ha of forest would have been cut down, chipped and sent overseas.

The review of the pulp mill effects included Poyry as one of the world leading consultants in pulp and paper as well as all other "experts" from other fields. The reason that the standard process was aborted was due to deliberate delaying tactics used by environmental extremists to subvert the process and stretch out the decision point indefinitely.

That even Peter Garret approved of pulp mill showed that once facts were separated from emotive propoganda, there was no real reason to prevent the construction of the pulp mill.

The use of forests to create wood products that are not burnt decreases the CO2 more than static maintenance of existing forests.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 24 December 2007 9:04:17 AM
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