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SuperManne v ThunderBolt: the battle for the last word in the history wars : Comments

By John Morton, published 18/9/2006

Robert Manne and Andrew Bolt slug it out in a debate about history, truth and memory.

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A debate I would have love to have seen. Of course Mr Bolt will claim he lost because of a left wing coalition of conspirators from the ABC, the Labor Party and the 'welfare lobby'.

Of course, you can't reason with the unreasonable, but I've got to admit that fool has got guts.
Posted by Carl, Monday, 18 September 2006 9:43:05 AM
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Bolt has never let facts get in the way of his ideas.
Posted by Kenny, Monday, 18 September 2006 10:16:45 AM
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Embarrass Andrew Bolt? Come on, John Morton! It would take a better man than Robert Manne (who has never been able to come up with 10 members of the ‘stolen generation’) to embarrass Andrew Bolt. You are just trying to put Bolt down, make him look foolish, because you can’t beat him. You might have no doubt that Manne was ‘even-handed’, and that ‘had the documentary evidence under control’, but that’s just your opinion, and you are obviously of the same ilk as Manne. Manne and his clique of left historians have already been proved to be incompetent (at the very least) by Keith Windschuttle, although you would probably say the same negatives things about him.

‘A myth-maker needs to do something else besides distort history.’ Well, Manne is an expert at that! His ‘symbolically true’ reference to supposedly stolen aboriginal children clearly indicates that. They were either stolen or they were not! His inability to provide evidence indicates that they were not
Posted by Leigh, Monday, 18 September 2006 10:42:04 AM
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He would say that wouldn't he?
Posted by ghaycroft, Monday, 18 September 2006 10:54:15 AM
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I dont know that any one would go out of their way to make Bolters look foolish Leigh - he does a splendid job of that all on his own - and a good deal of his fans make a habit of emulating that characteristic as well.
Posted by sneekeepete, Monday, 18 September 2006 11:37:50 AM
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Leigh,
You are not reading well. The use of the word 'Stolen' in this context was made perfectly clear. When something is taken from you without your consent, it is perfectly correct to say it has been stolen. A widow can say her happines was stolen. A child removed from his cultural roots is well within his rights to say his culture has been stolen. If that child was used as a servant from a young age, then his childhood has been stolen. The fact remains that great misery was caused and instead of trying to repair the hurt, you are indulginbg in semantics, thus perpetuating the misery by denying it.
As for pre-European culture being inferior to that of the invaders, surely today as the planet slides into ecological, climate and population chaos, it is clear that a culture that maintained this continent in perfect condition for tens of thousands of years, is superior to the culture that has degraded and destroyed it in a mere two hundred years?
Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 18 September 2006 11:43:22 AM
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