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National pride, national identity, and national resolve : Comments

By Peter van Vliet, published 23/3/2006

Reflections on the recent visit to Australia by the Head of State, Queen Elizabeth II.

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Peter Van Liet makes good sense and echoes the thoughts of the large majority of Australian citizens. The Republic is inevitable and coming closer every day. Almost humerous to read the bleating of David Flint. It will be interesting to see how he copes with the Taxation Investigators who can see through a rort when they find one. Question. Will the Governor General also be looked at as the Patron-in-Chief?

David Gothard
Posted by David Gothard, Thursday, 23 March 2006 11:18:12 AM
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Let's be clear. We would have a republic right now, if Howard hadn't cynically scuppered the convention and referendum a few years ago.

He is the barrier to a republic. Get rid of Howard and it will happen pretty quickly.

To have the Union Jack being paraded around the MCG every time an Australian wins a medal is a joke. The Brits laugh every time they see it - e.g. the Barmy Army at cricket matches sing words to the effect "you haven't even got your own flag".
Posted by AMSADL, Thursday, 23 March 2006 11:48:21 AM
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The Monarchy works very well for Australia, and some gratitude to the Queen for facilitating its working would be appropriate.

The article is gross and based on ignorance of how to refer to our head of state.

There are many situations requiring criticism and attention, and the constitutional monarchy is not one of them. It works smoothly and well, and is a living part of our cultural history.

There are many things of which we should rid ourselves because they do not work and do undoubted harm to the community.

A small start to a list of such items: Multiculturalism, violation of motorists rights, governments who run down infrastructure by neglect, undemocratic demands for rights of minorities and particularly the attitude of attacking functional institutions and processes simply because they were set up by our more capable forebears.
Posted by Leo Lane, Thursday, 23 March 2006 2:57:53 PM
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Until we become a Republic we will always be at the behest of any power that wishes to co-ope our country into their wars, for their selfish reasons and our politicians egotistical vested interests. Our own President, if elected with the right process, would voice the will of the people and let the politicians dare take the people on at their own risk. Currently, the John Howard’s of this nation can run their own race with impunity as have countless others before him. I said to my wife when he took us to war with the willing that this was so little Johnny could spend a week on George W's Texas ranch! Sure enough, less than one year later, there was smiling Johnny with his chest puffed up in the photo opportunity at George's ranch for one week. A high price to pay just to stroke Johnny's ego. I rest my case.
Posted by nbdw, Thursday, 23 March 2006 3:14:04 PM
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A republic yes, but only if its done the right way. We need a system that doesn't continue with the current situation that disenfranchises the people. The people to choose a president, the form and make up of parliament and then ban parties and restrict election advertising to $5000, no donations, no affiliations. All those running for office to submit their policies in stat-dec, form and be accountable for all their actions in office. Elect them for certain portfolio, with automatic sacking if they fail to achieve their policy aims within a year. That'll keep them honest.

That way we would get rid of the trash we now have running the country in both federal and state politics. Their only elected according to their stupidity and ability to toe the party line, most have never done a usefull days work in their lives.
Posted by The alchemist, Thursday, 23 March 2006 4:13:41 PM
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Leo,

Just how does the monarchy work very well for Australia. I don't think it works at all!! Betty is not an Australian citizen. She does not live here. She has never lived here. She will never live here. She may not vote in any of our polls. She pays no taxes here. She has to do what our PM tells her re. Australia. I beleive she has the right to be advised and informeed by the PM of Great Britain (every week? Month?) Our PM doesn't have to meet with her at all.....at least not on a regular basis that I'm aware of. She blows in every now and then. She cannot marry a Catholic (presumably, she may marry anybody else) so, therefor, the monarchy side-show is based on discrimination. What does she do for us but keep us safe from the dreaded Pope and his armies?
Posted by Francis, Thursday, 23 March 2006 5:32:10 PM
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