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Health care: good, better, but for goodness sake give up on ‘the best’! : Comments

By Gavin Mooney, published 14/3/2006

Australia's health system encourages doctors to provide as many 'services' as they can, rather than encouraging good health.

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An excellent piece, head and heart working well together. Let us take the focus off doctors and hospitals and put it on people and health. Peter Baume's recent piece didn't quite say that, but it's the right start.
Posted by Don Aitkin, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 11:36:08 AM
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A much larger bucket of money that is generally spent very foolishly and often not for the government intended purpose is all the various parental allowances.

These funds should be redirected to fund better health care - which would address many of the cost issues of young parents.

But, this would not appeal to many lefties
Posted by Bruce, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 3:51:28 PM
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Public institutions are almost invariably less efficient than private ones. That is why 'scaling down' private health care is a misguided solution. How do you scale down a private institution anyway?

Clearly the author has an socialist axe to grind.
Posted by Alan Grey, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 4:55:26 PM
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Bruce, if it’s lefties who would object to stopping the buckets of money being thrown as electoral bribes to families, why is the Coalition in government, and why are most sections of the welfare lobby vehemently opposed to middle-class welfare taking precedence over welfare aimed at the poor? More lefties than conservatives strenuously object to the current patchwork of un-targeted family payments.

Alan Grey, this is not the place, nor is there room, for a general discussion on public v private efficiency, so I’ll stick to one specific point. Private hospitals are more than acceptable in many cases, but depend on rapid throughput to make profits. In general, this means surgical cases. If you are unfortunate enough to come down with a severe illness which calls for nursing, medication, and most importantly, prolonged treatment, and for which surgery is not indicated, a public hospital is the place to go. Preferably a major teaching hospital.

Private hospitals make no secret of the fact that medical cases aren’t as lucrative as surgery, and they’d prefer such cases be treated in the public system. A point which was made very clear to me by Prince of Wales Private Hospital when, after surgery in the private section, my mother got septacaemia (not linked to the surgery, but part of the same illness). They told me straight out that because this would take a long time to treat, she’d be better off in the public hospital, even though she was covered for private hospital treatment.

This seems to indicate that we continue to need public hospitals. Private hospitals are, and will presumably remain, simply an adjunct.
Posted by anomie, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 5:36:09 PM
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Bruce,
It would appeal to many lefties, if the family allowances that make it possible for low income families to survive remained in place. There seems little point to me in increasing health care, and the expense of the food budget. Low income families have been screwed into the ground for the previous 23 years, we are unable to absorb any more.

The wealthy want tax cuts, we want services, if the wealthy get their way, as is probable under this government, we will see the introduction of beggers on the street, much like south-east Asia.
We will be there in our tattered clothes, cap in hand, watching the parasites drive past in their beamers. Yes "the new right" are all wrong.
Posted by SHONGA, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 9:14:42 PM
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Professor

Thank you for a timely and well argued paper.

You are spot on re Indigenous Health Issues and Mental Health Issues.

I have worked for the public and private sectors of health (disease) systems in Australia - some 30 or so years.

I will never feel safe in a private hospital (and I have been a patient in several). Most of the so-called nurses, are nursing assistants without any nursing education (get 'em off the street and train them like a monkey. A monkey can be trained to deliver and exit with a bed pan - it's the analysis of the bed pan that is of optimum importance).

Medical officers rarely write comprehensive reports, and RNs play a cow tow game.

"Clients" and doctors set the rules - all based on the dollar.

Nursing in private psychiatric hospitals is the greatest joke of all. "Oh yes, I am suicidal, but I do need my Chardonnay tonight".

Professor, I was once a nurse academic. I left the "pseudo" fold on the grounds of honesty - for myself and people with potential mental health problems.

I predict that miacat will be your next poster
Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 9:17:48 PM
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