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Honest, clear-eyed, capitalist youth : Comments

By Jane Caro, published 16/12/2005

Jane Caro concludes tensions between parents and children remain unchanged and the same goes for the music.

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Jane,
I found the article too fluffy, too frivilous, too airy fairy something like a grown-up would write instead of getting into the real guts of child/parent relationships of what it is like to be an adolescent.
I did not like the last line. It seems to come down from on-high.
"Kids have always seemed determined to be contrary, at least to their parents"
The truth is the other way around Jane:
"Parents have always seemed determined to be contrary, at least to their kids."
And then the kids' parent write about it as if they know best when they don't.
Posted by GlenWriter, Friday, 16 December 2005 10:56:41 AM
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Smashmouth:

Twenty-five years ago they spoke out and they broke out
Of recession and oppression and together they toked
And they folked out with guitars around a bonfire
Just singin' and clappin' man what the hell happened
Then some were spellbound some were hellbound, some they fell down
And some got back up and fought back 'gainst the melt down
And their kids were hippie chicks all hypocrites
Because fashion is smashin' the true meaning of it

... too true Jane.

My kids all turned out to be conservative. They take me for a greybeard loon. Hopefully their upbringing in "hippie" surroundings have left a vestige of adventure in their souls.

I go on playing Joni Mitchell and Crosby, Stills and Nash.

... it'll all be rediscovered by the grandkids.

Love
Posted by Chris Shaw, Carisbrook 3464, Friday, 16 December 2005 11:05:15 AM
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Well said. I agree with Chris on this one. I am the ageing groover and the kids have looked askance over the years at Mum jiggling (another word?) away to old tunes. I too, also hope that the influence of a parent who maintained the groove, will support the kids on their journey through a minefield of global marketing, where just hearing the music will be enough to fill their hearts and minds. This also raises the question, when will us babyboomers stop saying - when I grow up I will........
Posted by tinkerbell1952, Friday, 16 December 2005 11:28:55 AM
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Give me Cat Stevens and Pink Floyd over Justin Timberlake and Coldplay any day.

Although there is something about Eminem. He's a poet at heart and just does it better than every other rapper.

t.u.s
Posted by the usual suspect, Friday, 16 December 2005 1:34:00 PM
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Before I saw what GlenWriter wrote I was thinking this article is all “fairyfloss” – sugary stuff lacking in substance.

As it is I will simply agree with Glen –

Part of the “human development process” is for children to test the standards of their most important people around them – in a family context, their parents. I did it with mine and my daughters did it with me.

The problem children of the current generation face is with the ones who suffer from having parents without standards. Parents who think it is “cool” to indulge their children’s every whim.

I recall one fellow I knew who summed himself up – he was from the last generation to follow the orders of their parents and the first generation to follow the orders of their children. I hasten to add, whilst of his age group, my standards were less compliant and, according to my daughters, a good job for them they had real boundaries to challenge.

As for the capitalism – it sure beats the leftie, "we-are-all-one" rubbish the socialists spew up – the great thing about socialists – they are the natural party of opposition. -

That way they get to oppose everything on moral grounds and can sleep peacefully at night secure in the fact that they are responsible for nothing.
Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 16 December 2005 1:45:41 PM
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Col Rouge(sic)

It is very hard growing up hungry and not to have the tendecies to care about your fellow humans as you grow older..i can only hope your comments are to draw ire..I guess you may feel elitist..I feel sorry for you.......DAVE B......
Posted by SHONGA, Friday, 16 December 2005 9:17:24 PM
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