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Joseph Ratzinger delivers an uncompromising message : Comments
By Greg Barns, published 22/4/2005Greg Barns argues Ratzinger and the hierarchy of the worldwide Catholic Church have blood on their hands
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Well said. I agree.
Posted by Jennifer, Friday, 22 April 2005 11:18:48 AM
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Before the inevitable tide of holy rollers arrives, i must thank you for putting the issue so starkly. I've been mocking the hierarchy of the Catholic Church for years, for their ignorance, narrowness and insensitivity, but when you consider their insidious and growing influence in those parts of the world most vulnerable to their lies and distortions, we need to realise they're beyond a joke, we need to start talking about criminal liability. These people know what they're doing, they know the consequences of their shameful pronouncements, and so they should be brought to justice. They are merchants of death. Choose life.
Posted by Luigi, Friday, 22 April 2005 11:57:21 AM
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Interestingly, I was chatting this morning with a Catholic priest and nun, neither of whom is at all happy with the Conclave's choice of Ratzinger as the new Pope. Then again, these are people who are working at the coalface of social justice and therefore are very aware of the areas in which the Catholic church needs to change in order to retain its relevance in the 21st century.
Posted by garra, Friday, 22 April 2005 1:13:56 PM
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I'd imagine many of the clergy here don't want to see a further haemorrhaging of their congregations. And who can blame them? It must be depressing to deliver a sermon to a half empty audience.
Defenders of the Bishop of Rome would not doubt cast him as a principled man needed in these Godless times. Unfortunately having principles (and I'll ignore his Nazi past at this point - after all, he was young and it was early in his career as they say) is not always a good thing. His Holy Inquisition predecessors had principles. Such principles led to anti-semitism, mass murder and torture. Besides, as we've seen with the issue of child molestation in the Catholic Church, the likes of Ratzinger are not very principled regardless of what their public relations machines say. Posted by DavidJS, Friday, 22 April 2005 2:01:51 PM
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A quick reality check: don't know if these figures are accurate but they seem ok to me. My point? I don't thing the world's moral community is completely reliant on Catholisism (33%)or waiting for it to become modernised.
Christianity: 2 billion Islam: 1.4 billion Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion Hinduism: 900 million Buddhism: 360 million Chinese traditional religion: 225 million primal-indigenous: 150 million African Traditional & Diasporic: 95 million Sikhism: 23 million Juche: 19 million Spiritism: 14 million Judaism: 14 million Baha'i: 5 million Jainism: 4 million Shinto: 4 million Zoroastrianism: 3 million Cao Dai: 3 million Tenrikyo: 2.4 million Neo-Paganism: 1 million Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand Rastafarianism: 600 thousand Scientology: 500 thousand http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html Posted by Rainier, Friday, 22 April 2005 4:20:30 PM
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What's the big deal here? Surely the passing of one Pope and the arrival of a new one is, in world terms, a wholly underwhelming event. So he was a nice guy, travelled a lot and made a lot of people feel good about themselves. But his contribution to anything of any worth is highly questionable.
In what way did John Paul II contribute to the alleviation of suffering, anywhere in the world, in any real sense? Or make any attempt to improve the lot of even one of his "flock"? I guess the answer is that neither of these is in the papal job description, but if so, why waste so many tons of newsprint on his passing? And the expressions of vague disappointment with the likely policies of Herr Ratzinger are simply astounding. The whole point of the Pope is to defend his church from any form of modernization, not to engage with anything remotely "modern" or "useful". The day I see a Pope exhibit one tenth of the humanity and fellow-feeling of the local branch of the Salvos, I might start to take him seriously. Until then he and his cohorts remain just a bunch of self-righteous authoritarians exercising mind-control over people who prefer not to do their own thinking. Posted by Pericles, Friday, 22 April 2005 7:18:58 PM
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