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Australia the 'Dumb Country' - can we get lucky again? : Comments

By John Mikkelsen, published 16/12/2024

Much of that is down to the fact that our Labor Federal Government refuses to acknowledge the rest of the world's industrialised nations are rapidly embracing clean, reliable nuclear energy under bi-partisan agreements.

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We are already a dumb country.

We were dumb to fall for the climate hoax. It's a bit late to “embrace” clean energy. We will be lucky to have any energy the way the uniparty is mucking around. We are now a cargo cult - thinking too far ahead for things to happen: 10 years for nuclear power. 20 years before we are able to defend ourselves. Australia is rooted.

And, it's no good conservatives saying that the Australian people are not stupid - with crossed fingers behind their backs - when our political class is definitely, obviously, stupid. Calling them “puerile” and “pathetic” is too kind. They are morons.

You are one of the very few commentators who sees things the way they are, John; but I think Australia has been irreparably damaged by the morons.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 16 December 2024 7:01:10 AM
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Ironically Albo's 'Made in Australia' push is likely to go backwards without reliable low cost power. My fear is that towards 2030 when old coal stations are knackered and we have to burn max gas that the nuclear salvation will still be some years away. That is, even higher power bills while our raw materials go to China.

Several SMRs should be up and running in the next few years in the Northern Hemisphere. Australia can then buy say the fifth or sixth of a kind 'flat pack'. I wonder if the CSIRO guru flies in planes with Rolls Royce or General Electric engines. Those firms say their SMRs will make electricity for about US$60 per MWh or the same price as US combined cycle gas. CSIRO says A$200-400. Better take the train if those firms have no credibility.
Posted by Taswegian, Monday, 16 December 2024 7:44:55 AM
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We’ve been scammed. We are likened now to the four thousand trapped illegal miners in NW province South Africa, kept underground as punishment.

Don’t vote!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 16 December 2024 8:02:54 AM
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Thanks for the comments so far - no doubt we have been scammed and the political class mainly are morons - possibly with a few notable exceptions - but for the sake of our kids and grandkids I do hope some positive change can come, starting with lifting the ban on nuclear energy. No doubt SMRs will become a practical reality before long but in the meantime, this latest interview with Dr Adi Patterson, the former director of the Lucas Heights reactor, is worth watching. He points out that the update to the LH reactor was completed on time and on budget and it is of a more complicated type than those required for power generation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Ue7cdpVRY
Posted by Mikko2, Monday, 16 December 2024 11:00:57 AM
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I have watched several interviews with Adi Patterson. He is the man the politicians should be listening to.

How about the Teal politician (Segall I think) announcing that baseload power is an old fashioned concept. We don't need it! We need to have things we can switch on and off!

'Moron' doesn't seem a strong enough description.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 16 December 2024 12:29:59 PM
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Yes ttbn, Zali Steggall: Climate 200-backed MP Zali Steggall has hit out at the Coalition's nuclear energy plan, claiming the concept of baseload power is “antiquated” and “proving to be more and more a thing of the past”. ...
Teal MP Zali Steggall was asked about her thoughts on using gas as a form of base load power but decried the entire concept as archaic.

“This idea that we need this base load is an antiquated idea as well,” Ms Steggall told Sky News on Sunday.

“Our grid is evolving and changing. We are now, with smart technology and appliances, able to meet the needs of the grid by turning on and off as required, on demand.

“The idea, the old-fashioned concept of baseload power is proving to be more and more a thing of the past so we have to stop thinking that we’re investing for the future to replicate the past..."

Well Zali, try telling that to our struggling aluminium smelters, steel smelters, cement factories, brick works, hospitals ... It just goes to show how really dumb and out of touch with reality the Teals, Greens and others of similar ilk are.
Posted by Mikko2, Monday, 16 December 2024 1:43:47 PM
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