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Nuclear, and Labor's lying lips : Comments

By John Mikkelsen, published 25/6/2024

First stop France, whose President Macron called on Australia to lift its nuclear ban after our government rejected a nuclear pledge at the Cop 28 summit last year.

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The LNP have stumbled on a couple of truthoids. Big reactors need 100 tonnes of uranium not a coke can and the oldest reactor is 55 and probably won't make it to 80. Also for a nuclear newbie like Australia power will probably be more expensive. However the question should be...can renewables meet our current and future needs? Given that windpower is producing less this year despite more turbines and Tas Hydro has restarted their gas plant the answer would seem to be no.

Therefore we should ask about the cost of not going nuclear. Australia could have 30m people by 2030 and the roads will be full of EVs. Cities will routinely hit 45C and some will rely on desal for water. The all renewables scenario should be charging ahead yet it's marking time. Let's hope there are several proven models of SMR by 2030 and for quicker build gigawatt plants we can put SMRs side by side.
Posted by Taswegian, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 9:08:55 AM
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There will be lots of lying and subterfuge right up to the next election. The problem for us is that we won't know which side is telling the truth, all politicians being professional liars. We really cannot trust politicians.

Then there are the lying public commentators who assert that the Commonwealth can't override the states who object to nuclear plants, when sec. 109 of the Constitution says it can.

It's hard to find an honest person in Australia these days.

If it were not for the climate/CO2 liars, we would still be enjoying cheap and reliable coal-generated power.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 9:11:53 AM
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Yes, lots of lying, but it is pretty hard to cover up the positive nuclear experience in countries like Canada, France, Sweden, Finland, or the UAE. Nor is it easy to hide the high power prices and economic decline of Germany from abandoning nuclear power in favour of wind and solar. Here in Australia, you don't need to look hard to see the massive environmental damage from wind farms and pumped hydro.

Lift the ban and end the renewable con job.

https://www.menziesrc.org/news-feed/finnish-greens-pro-nuclear-shift-a-lesson-for-australia
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 9:35:48 AM
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Too true Fester. The latest offshore wind farm announced by Bowen off the Illawarra coast will be about the size of New York, with a large number of interconnecting cables. But they don't worry about the whales or other marine life, just like they don't worry about koalas or other wildlife displaced on the mainland. Instructions were issued for killing koalas during land clearing by hitting them on the back of the head! Nuclear will avoid all of that and it's reliable baseload power 24/7 unlike wind and solar.
Posted by Mikko2, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 11:48:00 AM
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AUSTRALIAN PUBLIC IGNORES ALBANESE IS BACKING 8 BOMB GRADE MOBILE POWER REACTORS

Australia’s Prime Minister Albanese is planning 8 nuclear power reactors.

This includes 2 or 3 in the 2030s and 5 or 6 in the 2040s. The 8 reactors will mainly be mobile but land based when in port just south of Perth. Each of these reactors will use 95+% bomb grade HEU. This is vastly more than 4% LEU in the normal land electricity reactors being proposed by Australia's Coalition Opposition Leader Peter Dutton.

The Labor supported mobile nuclear reactors may be more prone to nuclear disasters (if they collide with large ships and experience other accidents) than fully land based reactors.

All this relates to the Labor supported AUKUS nuclear powered submarine program.
Posted by Maverick, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 12:19:21 PM
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Well said Mav. Let's keep killing koalas and birds as well as destroying big chunks of the environment in support of your nuclear delusions.

Tell me, how is it that electricity prices keep rising here with the rollout of cheap wind and solar, yet the Fins last year commissioned a nuclear reactor after long delays and cost blowouts and saw a substantial fall in electricity prices shortly afterwards?
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 25 June 2024 12:44:23 PM
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