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Beyond borders: why the Ukraine conflict matters to America : Comments

By Jeffrey Roth, published 4/3/2024

Here is where the long view becomes crucial. Our adversaries are strategically vying for control of a region that grows more critical daily – the Arctic.

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Agree!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 4 March 2024 11:10:01 AM
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Russia's military action was not 'unprovoked'. Nor was it the beginning of an expansionist trend.

Russia's reasons were clear and unambiguous. And if the Russians had been listened to and invited into good faith negotiations as they were requesting, instead of being totally ignored and their concerns so arrogantly dismissed, the 2022 military action would never have occurred.

Russia's clearly enunciated reasons were as follows:
- To demilitarise Ukraine
- To denazify Ukraine
- To end Kiev's killing of Russian speakers in the Donbass
- And to end NATO's military encirclement of Russia

The US has been sending arms to Ukraine and providing it with weapons training since 2014. This support directly fuelled the bombing and shooting of more than 14 000 people in the Donbass from 2014 to 2022.

The US and its allies need to stop arming Ukraine. Ukraine will never defeat Russia. Continuing to supply Ukraine with weapons is only prolonging the bloodshed and the needless sacrifice of Ukrainian lives.

And it's doing nothing whatever to help bring about world peace.
Posted by Bronwyn, Monday, 4 March 2024 3:42:07 PM
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Stop meddling in the internal affairs of other countries.
Stop conducting overthrows.

Russia has withstood Western sanctions and put an end to the Unipolar moment.
Dedollarisation has continued and Russia and China are allied.

America needs to wake up to the new global reality that it is neither exceptional or indispensable.

Z
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 4 March 2024 6:17:42 PM
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Ukraine is the latest case of the US losing a war the "Deep State' behind its government effectively started. Unfortunately again with most of the casualties and damage to infrastructure suffered by another country in pursuit of US agendas. In this case to try and cripple Russia so US interests have good chance of taking control of resources. Also have it weak from political and military viewpoints rather than being a strong country likely to stop the US acting as a bully that can often do what it likes. Many political leaders in the West hate Putin because he has led building the Russian Federation towards becoming a superpower after collapse of the communist Soviet Union and subsequent mismanagement under Boris Yeltsin especially. However, seems their efforts to weaken Russia - including sanctions are largely backfiring. Both hurting countries trying to impose them and forcing Russia to be more self reliant and less dependent on the West. Now remember that the national security - and survival of Russian Federation is dependent on achieving its aims in this war and is not going to back off until guaranteed Ukraine can no longer threaten it on behalf of Western interests. Especially those of the US. Then warmongers who think Ukraine has a chance of retaking Crimea should consider possibility of Russians resorting to nuclear strike against a large land force trying to enter. . It seems both the author and first commenter Alan B have seen little, if any news and views of the Ukraine situation other than that peddled by Western mainstream media and others largely supporting the "official" narratives. Needs more awareness promoted of existence of small "alternative" news sources on Internet. Including some based in USA plus English language Russian ones. Also, English translations can often be readily brought up of articles initially in Russian language and alphabet. For those not aware of any "alternative" sites which provide news including from viewpoints of supposed enemy, for a start check veteranstoday dot com (not dot org) from USA, rt dot com from Moscow and southfront dot press from Crimea.
Posted by mox, Monday, 4 March 2024 9:09:38 PM
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The Ukraine conflict matters not just to America. It matters to the whole of the free world !

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For nearly three-quarters of a century following the Second World War, the free world has been at peace. As a result, all the democratic countries have progressively reduced their military arsenals and defences, considering there would never be another major war.

The autocratic countries did exactly the opposite, and today they menace our democratic countries with the threat of aggression.

Russia has invaded Ukraine. China menaces Taiwan. North Korea has become a nuclear country and menaces South Korea. Iran is developing nuclear weapons and is creating problems in the Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea via its proxy, the Houthi movement in Yemen. Iran is backing the Sunni Islamist group, Hamas, the de facto leader of the Gaza Strip that attacked Israel and created havoc in the Middle East.

The free world is weak and vulnerable and just beginning to realize the danger. It will take several years for us to rearm for modern warfare and be capable of defending ourselves again.

In the meantime, we all depend heavily on the United States for our defence, but the prospect of Donald Trump’s re-election as president in November does not augur well for any of us. He wants to pull out of NATO and retorts that each country should look after itself and not expect the US to come to its defence.

We had better make sure Ukraine comes out on top or we'll all collapse like a stack of cards.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 5:46:48 AM
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Russia is receiving an enormous amount of military aid in its unprovoked war against Ukraine. How was Russia forced into the conflict? What threat would Russia face were it to withdraw its forces from Ukraine's borders.

Russia is losing its military hardware at an unsustainable rate. Its weapons are good for the terrorist campaign against the civilian population of Ukraine, but they lack the sophistication and accuracy of western weaponry and have also succumbed to the ingenuity of Ukrainian drones. Ukraine's challenge is to survive until the supply of arms increases.

The Sergey Kotov just got sunk by drones. One less ship in Russia's Black Sea fleet.
Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 8:31:27 PM
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