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No one should be surprised Australian politicians have been mingling with foreign spies : Comments

By Murray Hunter, published 1/3/2024

Influence operations by foreign governments has been going on in Canberra since the 1950s. Many potential Australians have been cultivated by the US government and associated agencies.

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“In Australia today, 5.5 percent of the population are Chinese. Most are proudly Chinese and have a strong loyalty towards China. They are also Australians and proud to be a citizen”.

How can they be both? Answer: they can't. They cannot be loyal to a Communist country and Australia.

A close Chinese mate of the previous China-obsessed WA Labor premier recently said that “we overseas Chinese” (not Australian,still Chinese) punt for the Motherland in Australia.

“Espionage has become blurred today”. No. ‘Blatant’ is the correct word. And it's all the fault of our useful idiot political class. Mass immigration of people from a Communist country known to want control of Australia and the Pacific is as stupid as it gets.

Donald Horne wrote of the “Lucky Country”. Zimmermann and Moens wrote of the “Unlucky Country”.

The next book should be titled “The Stupid Country”.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 1 March 2024 8:39:38 AM
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Yes, I believe this works both ways. These so-called spies are a useful source of backdoor communication/intel.

They get and they give.

It's not just Aussie pollies that receive good intel, but our military and intel operatives/foreign observers.

We are a very trusted ally and offer a place to base Marines, GIs, Nuclear subs and bombers!

Moreover, our beefed-up military might makes us a bit more than a very junior partner.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 1 March 2024 9:22:15 AM
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Ttbn, It's not Australian born Chinese who are the problem but recent arrivals.

We know this by the number of Australian born Chinese that are cooling their heels, without charge, in Chinese prisons.

Some of my best friends are ethnic Chinese.

I believe it's fair to say they are among the most patriotic Australians and ready to die for Australia and against China!

Not something one can say for the average white Australian?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 1 March 2024 9:36:14 AM
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I hope the name gets out. It used to be called treason.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 1 March 2024 9:47:57 AM
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Define 'Australian'
Are we talking about the indigenous population?
Of course not!
Are we talking about the descendants of Anglo Celtic convicts shipped to Australia?
Are we talking about the Anglo/Celtic/Saxon gentry that emigrated to Australia and became the de facto ruling class?
Those descendants of such that bestowed the privilege of being 'Australian' to the the Europeans that were enticed to come to Australia?
The early Chinese were not extended that privilege because after all they were Chinese, and they were mere sugar cane workers.
Strong cultural identity but not though of as real people at all.
After all 'fried rice and spring rolls' is no replacement for meat and potatoes

Today we have Aussie yobs and peasants talking about who is entitled to be Australian.
Culturally lobotomized individuals rabbiting on about their rights and why the economy is where it is and not where they think it should be during the ads in sports broadcasts on their screens.
Accusing others of questionable conduct when Guantanamo is still a going concern.
Refusing to stand on their own and chose to be a vassal state instead.
Australians are identified in the world as those holding the toilet paper while UK/US are crapping over everything.
The US creates a storm in the name of a US citizen, Australia just hands their citizens over saying 'sorry', you can have him.
Assange being a prime example.
'Guts' is not a word associated with Australians in the world today.
Innocuous 'fun in the sun' people
We hand out medals to to soldiers with questionable behavior 'cos Austraya needs heroes and we've run out of them other than those that play cricket or football

If I were in trouble o/seas the last people I'd call is the Australian Embassy.
I'd probably get more assistance from the Chinese and I'm of Italian descent.
As Dracula said to his minion, being my servant comes at a price of my choosing.
Posted by Special Delivery, Friday, 1 March 2024 11:14:13 AM
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Of course they cannot be both loyal to China and loyal Australians at the same time. Chinese remain Chinese through countless generations and continent shifting. We are indeed 'The Stupid Country' for allowing such mass immigration from a country that is most certainly not our ally and is the most racist country on Earth.
Posted by Cody, Friday, 1 March 2024 12:35:19 PM
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