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When the ice returns : Comments

By Viv Forbes, published 20/12/2023

Earth is living in the latter days of the Holocene Warm Era. This is the latest short, fertile, warm interlude within the long, barren, Pleistocene Ice Age.

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Not only is there “no ability to forecast climate”, there is no ability to forecast weather accurately day to day. In the last few days, we have seen reports of farmers paying for private forecasters to give them the right information.

The report I see on the internet - came with the tablet I use - is spot on. Any variations to the initial report are quickly presented through the day. I don't know who runs it, but it is certainly not the useless BOM, with its wild guesses, presented by a bimbo after the nightly news.

Like any government department, like any government, the BOM is rubbish.

Our society, country and daily lives are being driven back to the Dark Ages by a bunch of ignorant, incompetent big-mouths - elected and unelected.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 7:15:58 AM
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Actually, we are already back in the Dark Ages - as Third World Country, when the NSW government begs people not to use too much electricity as a perfectly normal for Australia summer heat wave hits.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 7:31:11 AM
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No doubt there will be another Ice Age caused by the sun's cyclical dimming but actual scientists are saying that is perhaps 100,000 years away. Right now there are 8 bn people who depend on just in time supply of food and water coupled with infrequent weather extremes. We'd better tell indoor growers of tomatoes and capsicums that CO2 doesn't make any difference. In their delusion they aim for 1000 ppm CO2 not the measly 420 ppm atmosphere we have now.

According to satellite data 85% of glaciers are in retreat. Global sea level rise is nearly 4mm a year. There are odd places where this is not true which doesn't contradict the big picture. Fossil fuels will get expensive due to depletion not COP get-togethers. Therefore it is prudent to find alternatives sooner rather than later. We have an alternative to coal in the form of nuclear so let the coal closures proceed.
Posted by Taswegian, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 8:07:05 AM
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The ice returned in the late seventies. (NASA) And since then we've had record breaking heat waves, fire storms and increased droughts.

The sun controls earth's temperature.

It waxes and wanes in around 200-year cycles. Warm and cool.

The sun is also expanding and as it does planet earth becomes warmer. One day that expansion will progressively consume the solar system.

Well before then planet earth will become too hot for human habitation!

We will need to find new homes among the stars or cease to exist as a species.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 20 December 2023 9:26:43 AM
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Increasing drought Alan? Come on mate.

Last year was the second wettest on record, 132 years of record in my district, & many others, with record floods in many others.

Any fire storms are only because of lousy forest management.

Sounds like your gout is playing up mate.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 20 December 2023 5:00:28 PM
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Last year was wet, thanks to la Nina, but the trend is what counts, and that trend sees us becoming hotter and drier with record breaking heat waves, droughts and old folk unable afford to cool their homes, dropping flies from heat trauma. This year will likely be a dry and hot one, supporting the trend. La Nina comes rarely and creates a nice drop of rain or even record floods. That destroys homes, livelihoods and lives.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 20 December 2023 6:17:53 PM
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