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Why we said 'NO bloody way' : Comments
By John Mikkelsen, published 18/10/2023Even in the closing stages, while sitting in the red dust at the foot of Uluru swatting flies and swallowing a few, Albo refused to swallow the latest poll figures.
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The 20% of indigenous who live in remote communities need assistance, not just financial. I would like a definition of who qualifies to be called indigenous. I know at least three families whose great, or great great grandmother was part or full aboriginal and these parents today, their adult children, grand children, are considered indigenous, mostly all blonde, blue-eyed; and they take advantage of the benefits of $10 dental service, discounts on vehicles, medical, etc
Posted by Francesca, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 9:00:55 AM
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Do we need to be told why we voted NO? There are too many people of all political persuasions who think they know more about us than we do.
The same bigmouths on both sides lectured us on the evils of Yes and No, believing, as usual, that we are all too stupid to make up our own minds. Millions of dollars were spent because they thought we were too stupid to 'get' their messages. . There wasn't enough detail . You were a racist if you didn't vote for the race-based proposal . Albanese was good/bad . Dutton was good/bad . Jacinta Price was an angel. On and on the twaddle went. Over how long? I've forgotten. It bored me rigid. No amount of money, no advertising, no wankerdoodle 'celebrities', business moguls, no bishops or sporting 'heroes' or singers, had the slightest effect on my vote of NO, which I decided on the moment the Voice was announced. It was plain, bloody wrong. That's why it was rejected. Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 9:09:16 AM
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The Australian Financial Review says today that Big Business CEOs and boards should stop meddling in politics and wasting shareholders' money following the resounding defeat of the race-based Voice referendum.
Upcoming AGMs could be interesting. Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 10:11:27 AM
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The whole thing was very badly managed and/or explained by both sides.
Posted by ateday, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:07:56 PM
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$100 million war chest of corporate dollars including big banks, retailers and mining companies, Qantas planes had Yes logos and provided free flights to Yes Campaigners. Answer- Qantas's gay CEO Alan Joyce endorsed The Voice. Joyce has now been replaced by a gay woman. It seems that their hiring may have been based on DIE policy corrupting western corporate culture along communist lines creating cultural concentration- some call this elitism- elitism based on competence is valid. Now the Qantas Yes logos are a joke. The free flights are concerning. How is this politicization affecting employees within Qantas/ corporate in Australia/ western world- despite discrimination on political beliefs being illegal. There are good reasons in democracy not to discriminate employment based on political beliefs as it corrupts the democratic process if people with certain beliefs are not able to find work. Apparently activist (communist?) organisations such as The Sleeping Giants have intimidated corporations to destroy pockets of resistance. DIE (diversity, inclusivity, equality) policy propaganda isn't democratic making the "probability is possibility" fallacy- not "one person one vote" but "one difference at least one vote (see intersectionalism)". DIE propaganda also seems to say that diversity is productivity. DIE propaganda seems to embrace the communist "principle of need" rather than industrialist/ capitalist/ entrepreneurial "value principle". German philosopher Frederick Nietzsche and Hebrew writer Ayn Rand talked about the fallacies of communism. Nietzsche "Genealogy of Morals" compared Priestly/ Hebrew/ Slave/ Envy/ Need code with Knightly/ Aristocratic/ Value code. Comment- Senator Price... advocated an end to "academics and activists" thinking they knew better than people on the ground in remote communities and explained that a new way of thinking was required. Answer- "The Academy" has perhaps become the enemy of democracy and local traditionalist communities- in that way they are racist. The Voice isn't over sadly as state ALP is continuing- showing contempt of Australian people and democracy- if it's not democracy it's (communist) tyranny- the ALP show which side they stand on. A democracy has one person one vote, no special interests- but the ALP seem to be the enemy of democracy. Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 7:40:25 PM
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The question being, should promises be kept?
At elections time, Anthony promised to have this idiotic referendum. He must have known that it will fail, he must have known it even then, but a promise is still a promise no matter how stupid it is. His rival, OTOH, just broke his promise: http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/no-plan-b-jacqui-lambie-fires-up-over-voice-referendum-lashes-prime-minister/news-story/8dd2a4c54a6ca9b87cd2310a08f7c88e I don't like any politician, to hell with them all, I would send them all to Gaza, but if you must have any, wouldn't you prefer to at least have one that keeps their promises? Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 9:22:47 PM
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