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Vicarious zeal: fighting to the last Ukrainian : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 18/7/2022

As the bloody conflict in Ukraine continues, the rhetoric from the imperial spear-holders in Washington and some allies is becoming increasingly fixated with one object: victory against Russia.

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The Ukrainian president is the one "fighting to the last Ukrainian". After he has achieved the final annihilation of his fellow citizens and everything they have, he will slither away with his billions, a 'hero', sought after by publishers and as an after dinner speaker. There will be no "victory against Russia". There will be no victory for ordinary Ukrainians - those actually left alive, without homes or anything that they ever owned blown to bits.

Would their lives have been worse than they are now if their maniacal president had come to some arrangement with Russia rather than bringing down on them the results of his 'little big man' complex?
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 18 July 2022 9:48:05 AM
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"As the bloody conflict in Ukraine continues, the rhetoric from the imperial spear-holders in Washington and some allies is becoming increasingly fixated with one object: victory against Russia."

This was the aim before the war even started you fool.

Overthrow the country
+ Empower the Nazis
+ Pick a fight with Russian speaking people by outlawing their language
+ Continually poke the Russian bear until you get a war going
And maybe also
+ Create a global energy crisis
+ Planned global economic collapse
+ Global pandemic
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 18 July 2022 10:41:47 AM
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This Anglo or US centric analysis requires one to bypass the facts and interests of people, through Central Eastern Europe, on the ground with lived experience of Putin-Russia, and their independence?

Like the author, another contributor to US Counter Punch, describes Putin worshippers round Kremlin backed 'The Grayzone' (pro Assad conspiracies round 'white helmets' in Syria), masquerading as journalists of the left, as 's-heads' and 'fake anti-imperialists' concurring with Trumpists, Fox News, alt right etc.

Then you have Kissinger and Chomsky jointly agreeing that it's not Putin-Russia's fault that they invaded Ukraine.....
Posted by Andras Smith, Monday, 18 July 2022 10:56:40 AM
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I can only assume that the Russians are getting an unexpected flogging.

This Article is the silliest that I have seen from this Author so
far .
Posted by Aspley, Monday, 18 July 2022 11:18:58 AM
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What the article, and the comments in the Forum, FAIL to mention is that Ukraine is fully entitled to its secure borders as negotiated through the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances in 1994. As a signatory to the Memorandum, Russia AGREED to the borders of Ukraine to include the Donbas and Luhansk territory, as well as the region of Crimea usurped illegally by Russia in 2014.

The MINIMUM requirement to end this war is for Russia to vacate its absurd and unjustified territorial claims to regions of Ukraine which they acknowledged in 1994 trough the signed memorandum. Furthermore, Putin must withdraw all Russian invading forces out of Ukrainian territory and agree to substantial post-war reparations.
Posted by Yuri, Monday, 18 July 2022 11:40:58 AM
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I don't agree with the anti- USA rhetoric of this Author. If Russia/Putin prevails in the Ukraine? Then she/he will want more and more, until there is a new Soviet Union! And who knows if it ends there?

We must continue to support Ukraine with everything at our disposal, least we become the next target for this limitless expansion, and occupied slavey?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 18 July 2022 12:33:04 PM
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