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UN anti-Jewish bias hinders end to Arab-Jewish conflict : Comments

By David Singer, published 29/11/2021

The continuing flagrant violation of Article 80 of the UN's own 1945 Charter by its member states highlights the rapidly-increasing anti-Jewish bias that is infecting the UN and its agencies.

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There is no immediate solution to the Arab-Israeli dispute because nothing less than the total extermination of Israel is acceptable to most Arabs. I say "most" because the leaders of the Gulf states are getting sick and tired of their religious zealots clamouring for war with the Jews, and they know that the Jews are good people do do business with.

On the Israeli side, they have no intention of being exterminated. And being the smartest race on earth, they intend to just hang on until the Arabs run out of oil and come running to the Israelis with their begging bowls.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 29 November 2021 12:09:04 PM
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Am pro-Israel, but not Jewish, happy knowing Israel's nukes keep the Arab and Iranian states away.
Posted by Maverick, Monday, 29 November 2021 4:48:47 PM
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Wow, have we broken a record?

The article mentions the phrase "Jewish People" 5 times without even attempting to define that term, while the author has declined time and again to specify what exactly he means by that expression.

How could a conflict exist between such a body of people which does not even exist, and some other body of people, "The Arabs", which also is so vague that it could mean so many things, if at all. Further, how can a non-existing conflict ever be solved?!

(also, how can anybody be "anti-Jewish" without any understanding of what the term "Jewish" means?)

With the author refusing to define what he is talking about, how could anyone expect the League of Nations to know what they were talking about and make an intelligent decision? Do we even have a clue as to what they had in mind in 1922? Most likely, each member-state had some different idea in mind, if at all!

Unless the author provides some definition, I suspect that by "Jewish People" he refers to his own ideological splinter-group, which by their adopted name only, were supposedly the ones who were granted by the League-of-Nations/United-Nations the right to do whatever they like in the land of Israel, ignoring even the interests of the State of Israel and the well-being of its people.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 29 November 2021 6:55:23 PM
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Y,

Seriously! can't you work out who are the Jewish people as opposed to the "Palestinian people" referred to by the UN?
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 5:51:56 AM
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If I was to say to anybody the word "Arab", what might come to mind is a prson in robes on top of a camel with a big nose. Or it might be somebody wearing western clothes, a big nose, and wearing Addidas shoes.

Neither term is absolutely correct, but then it does not need to be. it is correct enough to form a concept, and that concept will become clearer as the speaker puts the noun "Arab" in context with what he or she is saying. It is a generalized term, and everybody ues generalised terms in everyday speech.

If I was to say to Yuyutsu, "there is a bird sitting on your car", Yuyutsu would not think that there was a penguin, an ostrich, or an emu sitting on his/her car. He/she/it would conclude that it was some sort of feathered avian, of indeturminate species and colouration. the word "bird" is not specific, it is general. General enough to make people understand what you are saying.

Yuyutsu claiming that unless nouns are always specific then they are not valid is absolutely potty. Which pretty much sums up Yuyutsu's whole mindset.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 7:18:41 AM
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Dear ShadowMinister and LEGO,

My last post cannot be understood in the context of this article alone, but as a response to the author's never-ending series of articles on this same point, some 300 of them since 2008.

The vague, undefined nature of the term "Jews" or "Jewish People" allows the author to constantly change the goal-posts so he can use and incorrectly interchange different groups of people as convenient for the promulgation of his ideas, evading the inevitable criticism he could receive had he been using the term consistently.

"Jews" could mean, among other things and in different contexts:
* The descendants of the legendary three forefathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (also called "Israel"), to whom, according to the Bible, God granted the "Promised Land", subject to certain conditions.
* The people who lived in Israel 3000 years ago and their descendants.
* The people who practice the Jewish religion.
* The descendants of people who once practiced the Jewish religion.
* The people who are considered as Jews according to Jewish Law (Halacha).
* Those who actively follow Jewish culture.
* Those whom Hitler killed or attempted to kill on the grounds of being "Jewish".
* The citizens of Israel.
* Whoever members of the League-of-Nation had in mind when considering a "Jewish Homeland".

As for "Arabs", it's evident that most of those who intuitively identify as "Arabs" are now at peace with Israel, so what "conflict" is the author attempting to solve?

«Seriously! can't you work out who are the Jewish people as opposed to the "Palestinian people" referred to by the UN?»

Seriously, this is not clear at all: what many UN members must have had in mind, is to get Jewish refugees out of their countries. At the time, Israeli Arabs mostly considered themselves as Syrian, certainly not "Palestinian". In fact, it was mainly Israeli Jews then who considered themselves "Palestinian", and these people did not even want a Jewish state, but rather a Hebrew state where they can revive the Hebrew culture: I doubt that this was ever in the mind of UN members.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 30 November 2021 11:59:08 AM
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