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Why we should abandon political parties : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 15/10/2021

The reason today on why we should support independents is that the major parties, left and right, have lost contact with, and commitment to, the needs and beliefs of ordinary citizens.

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A good example of the failings of the party system is population policy. Recent surveys show a majority want limitations on population growth yet both Liberal and Labor are in thrall to the concept of Big Australia. For example the new NSW premier wants another 2 million people perhaps they could live in Broken Hill.

Another issue is paralysis on decarbonising. I think for the House of Reps we should look at the independent candidates and vote for the least worst. Result fewer party hacks and time servers. The subsequent parliament might then look like an incoherent rabble then again it might get things moving in the direction people want.
Posted by Taswegian, Friday, 15 October 2021 7:55:13 AM
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We would be much better off without political parties, but it will never happen. Money!
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 15 October 2021 9:34:46 AM
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No ttbn, it is not money, the present form of government came about
because people were fed up with civil war amongst the Barons and with
the King.
As Churchill said, Democracy is the worse form of government except
all the rest.

The author uses Global Warming as proof, well what if global warming
is a big mistake ?
After all the warming that has occurred up till recently was expected
since the minimum at the beginning of the 18th century.
So what if they have all got their knickers in a twist over the cause ?
Too many prophecies have come to nothing for anyone to bet the whole
economy on. So far the bet stands at One Trillion dollars just for Australia.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 15 October 2021 9:54:17 AM
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More ttbn, I agree with you on population. The idea that growth can
be driven by population increased by immigration verges on madness.
At the same time as new dams are opposed, population growth is promoted.
At the same time they are promoting a restructuring over 50 years of
the whole economy they are opposing babies ! Who do they think will
rebuild the economy ?
The politicals are failing us at present but it will come to crunch
as they become unreconciled with the public.
The Libs are following the warmists as is labour. However the man in
the street has a short temper, only as long as the next election.
Once the mad policies take hold the electrol pressure will fracture
the parties.
Making treaties to do this or that to save the planet will most likely
become the biggest blunder in history, either because of what I suggested
or because the whole thing has been over hypted, Blah, Blah, Blah !
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 15 October 2021 10:20:16 AM
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I agree with the stated concept! Moreover, we need to end a truly asinine and BS obsessive dependence on foreign money! But fund what we need via social credit and make every dollar do seven times more work via cooperative capitalism!

Then we need to understand that every western-style economy rests solely on just two (2) support pillars, i.e., energy and capital! And the above solutions ensure neither are price gouged by tax-avoiding profit repatriating foreigners!

Capital is provided via social credit where we write the cheques, i.e., the reserve bank promises to pay, etc-etc. And can be virtually unlimited if used exclusively to fund, income-earning infrastructure of any kind! Toll roads, bridges, tunnels shipping canals and very rapid rail!

Energy needs to conform to a carbon-constrained future and needs to be cheaper than coal and not at all owned in any context by foreign nationals! Only SAFE, CLEAN, ULTRA CHEAP MSR thorium fits the foregoing criteria and basically withheld for base (BS) political purposes by all political parties! And a very good reason to follow the Author's august and sage advice!

Further to that, we need to automate like there's no tomorrow and
that means cheaper than coal, reliable 24/7 energy supply!

None of the above will happen if we continue to support whiskey and rum sodden thinkers in various political parties! Therefore I support and commend the Author's contention! TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 15 October 2021 11:14:18 AM
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I agree with previous posters, who argue we just don't need to import more people to quite massively grow the economy! What we need is to attack and remove poverty in this country in all forms and guises. We also need to remove all the paper shuffling profit demanding middlemen. Who are the biggest cause of endemic generational poverty in this country, given their totally unproductive parasitical activities all but double the cost of living and or, doing business in this country!

We need to end the obsession with tax avoidance and by lowering the tax rate for everyone to an unavoidable, above a very generous, tax-free threshold, 15% flat tax. The first effect of the suggested policy, would end any need to pay tax compliance or rationalisation costs, which average around 7%. And that seven per cent could then be returned to he bottom line! And would in effect, be an adjusted tax rate of just 8% in real bottom-line outcomes!

The rest of the massive economic growth is driven by preferencing cooperative capitalism, i.e., co-ops and maximised energy dependant automation

And means, some of the co-op operated and owned, MSR thorium, would be retasked to burn nuclear waste! Waste which we/they would be paid annual millions to take! And means, almost free, CLEAN, SAFE industrial power for thousands of years.

The money is made via volume supply, not margins! Superconductors in the transmission and distribution side would play a very significant role in that envisaged outcome TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 15 October 2021 11:55:29 AM
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