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Lockdowns reduce infection rates, but only for a few weeks : Comments

By Michael Tomlinson, published 31/8/2021

Research studies have not found associations between lockdowns and reduced mortality outcomes over the course of an epidemic wave.

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Correct. But until the 'average Australian' wakes up, "experts" who never in their wildest dreams thought that they would get so much attention are going to continue doubling down on their stupidity.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 9:07:53 AM
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Australians have been described as "Covid-fearing infantilised toddlers", and there is not much hope of a fightback against a couple of decades of being ruled by a class of managerial elites, who pretty much ignore the wishes of the Australian people as expressed at elections. Why even have elections if all parliament does is merely implement “expert” advice, as it has done with Covid, and will probably continue to do so on all manner of issues, now that it has the taste for responsibility-dodging. Just today, unelected, no-responsibility, Andrew Forrest has TOLD the Morrison government to set a net zero carbon goal. Morrison, elected on the strength of Labor's unpopularity for promising that is already on board with such nonsense.

Zero emissions by 2050? Australia will be 'zero everything' by then.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 9:50:34 AM
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That's because of non-compliance by the poor, who cannot afford to take unpaid leave, nor struggling businesses who cannot afford to cease trading! Then there is movement and contact via the transport of essential household commodities.

And examples like Bondi, where nobody wore the obligatory mask nor kept a social distance. but were found all over each other in (I'm alright Jack) amorous non-compliant contact.

Then there has been a flawed quarantine system that is not fit for purpose! And dumb pollies opening up, way too soon! And all that just the tip of a, keystone cops, iceberg.

For studies to be worth a cracker, they cannot draw any conclusion from highly suspect and demonstrably, flawed data!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 31 August 2021 10:50:28 AM
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I agree, ttbn. We will never ever get to zero emissions as long as we keep our self imposed embargo on nuclear power! I mean, we will always need reliable, dispatchable power! That said, you are way off topic mate! As is my short reply.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 31 August 2021 10:59:02 AM
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Not really off the topic, Alan, as I was following up on the average Australian's obsession with safety and his reluctance to stand up to politicians and demand they do what they were voted in to do - and often what they said they would do, but didn't. The poor quality of Australian politicians affects everything, not just Covid. It's not the Covid that is the danger, it's the way that idiots have mishandled it, and are continuing to mishandled it because of their massive egos and unwillingness to admit fault. Only voters can do something about that, but they they don't, and probably never will. The old image of Australians as tough, independent, and brave went out the door when we had multiculturalism and mass immigration foisted on us. (That last bit is likely off topic).
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 11:36:36 AM
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It has been very obvious to anyone who looked dispassionately at the data that lockdowns don't work in the medium term and are having a massive negative impact on current society and future prosperity.

As I've shown previously, studies comparing broadly similar jurisdictions with differing lockdown responses have shown that lockdowns don't result in lower death rates. If you compare US states that locked down heavily and for extended periods with those that didn't, the later had lower death rates. A similar situation applies in regards to the EU member states.

In Australia, the whole thing became a competition between the states with the only criteria being deaths attributed to the virus. No state leader had the gumption to buck the trend and lift their lockdowns because they knew that each death thereafter would be attributed by a baying press to the raised lockdown. Yet the number of deaths has been really quite minor.

In 2019 flu/pneumonia killed over 4000 people. We've now had two seasons of WuFlu with just over 1000 deaths. So eight times more people die of flu but there isn't a murmur about that.

The lockdowns have been a disaster for the economy and the future economic well-being of the nation. They've been a disaster for children's education. They've been a disaster on the domestic violence front. Businesses destroyed. Livelihoods wreaked. Freedoms lost. Centuries old liberties upended. And so much more.

All because of an hysterical response to a very manageable infection. Generations of Australians are going to rue, and continue ruing, the governmental decisions of the last two years.
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 31 August 2021 2:31:10 PM
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