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The people's treaty : Comments

By Daryl Le Cornu, published 6/11/2020

In 90 days the Treaty for the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons enters into force in internation law.

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Wow! Honduras, hey? Nothing more to worry about then. Can anyone say how many signatories to the treaty actually have nuclear weapons of their own? Does anyone these days actually believe just signing something makes any difference and that China, the US and Russia will give up nuclear weapons?

I would rather know that there are nuclear weapons in the hands of the major powers as a deterrent.

Meanwhile, in Australia, we are not allowed even nuclear power, and we are virtually defenceless, without decent conventional weapons, and where the few armament industries there are are just job creating to keep certain politicians in power - bugger all to to do with defence.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 6 November 2020 9:11:50 AM
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7 Australia $61,997,911 15-Jan-20

USD paid..
Posted by jamo, Friday, 6 November 2020 9:17:52 AM
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Your last paragraph says:

"Hopefully, over time, as more countries sign and ratify the treaty, world public opinion will pressure the nine Nuclear weapons states to re-evaluate their nuclear postures, and 'the people of the United Nations' will finally achieve what they have desired for the last seventy-five years, a world free from the threat of nuclear catastrophe."

I certainly hope you are correct, but I see no signs that indicate any progress in this direction. How could the West get Russia, China, and North Korea to agree, destroy all their weapons and manufacturing facilities and not cheat?
Posted by Peter Lang, Friday, 6 November 2020 10:53:28 AM
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1. Treaties are nice and have an impact - if they have verification and enforcement mechanisms.

But the one at issue in the article doesn't.
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2. Several countries (like South Korea, Japan and Taiwan) aspire to defend themselves with nuclear weapons against nuclear weapon states at their doorstep.

How can you deny South Korea, Japan and Taiwan the right of effective nuclear defence?
Posted by plantagenet, Friday, 6 November 2020 11:25:24 AM
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The problem is that not all countries are rational.
Here is a text from a Utube from an authority in Pakistan;

In a video posted on his official YouTube channel on October 24, 2020,
Pakistani politician and Islamic scholar Allama Khadim Hussain Rizvi
urges the Pakistani government to declare Jihad against “those who
slander the Prophet Muhammad.” He urges the government to “use the
atom bomb” and “[Let] everyone die.” He continues to say that he is
declaring Jihad against those who slander the Prophet. Rizvi is the
founder of the Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan political party in Pakistan,
which was established to combat any change to the country’s blasphemy
laws.

Allama Khadim Hussain Rizvi: “Today, France is challenging you
[government of Pakistan]. Why have you kept the tenth atom bomb
[hidden] inside? Use that atom bomb outside. Use that atom bomb
outside. Declare a Jihad. [Let] everyone [in France] die.
There would be no shame before the Prophet on the Day of Judgment.

France of course would respond in like manner.
The problem is a threat coming from a muslim source cannot just be
treated as some crackpot.
Because of this crackpots status probably France has taken precautions.
Muslims having control of nuclear weapons is a major worry.
They believe that a retaliatory strike would have themselves in paradise immediately.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 6 November 2020 11:44:18 AM
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If this abomination of a treaty is not honoured by all as an all in treaty! then it should not stand as a treaty any can sign or adhere to!

Given the actual proliferation that has already occurred, is occurring, will undoubtedly occur! We should no longer be chained to it by stupidity personified!

If plain old fashioned common sense, the foreseeable economic and defence outcomes won't engender a change of mind/heart? Then the rise and rise of a communist, totalitarian, nuclear-armed, sabre rattling patently malevolent China, should!

Forget the expressed concerns of the blatantly obvious fifth columnists, in greenie clothing, amoung us and just crack on with it!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 6 November 2020 11:56:55 AM
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