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The sinister side of the nanny state : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 19/2/2020

Not many of us like being told how to live our lives, especially by those we don’t know and trust. It gets up our nose.

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Should we have the right to have our brains splattered over the roadway after a motorcycle accident while not wearing a helmet? No.
Should I have a right to fresh air as a non smoker? Yes.

Should I have the right to complain about such laws? Yes.

Dave, burying his attachment to the tobacco and alcohol industry is a shallow dig.
:-).

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 8:14:17 AM
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There is no "almost unique". It is unique, or isn't. And, the taxes on tobacco and alcohol are voluntary; only users pay. The people who use alcohol in the early hours have to be locked out because they act like animals.

There are no 'unreasonable' speed limits, and cyclists, with or without safety helmets, are idiots for riding amongst traffic.

Totally agree with the doctor and Nobel prize comments. Same with the thinking and speaking, but that is a problem caused not so much by the nanny state, but the Leftists, the Greens and idiot entertainers on Oscar night: buffoons like Russell Crowe, who always acts as Russell Crowe, and who has a two minute video on how we rotten people have to fix climate change. That 'Australian' actor can't actually get Australian citizenship.

If we cleared self-appointed judges and advisers out, there would be no nanny state; the corrupt and effete state just bends to the most noise.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 8:58:33 AM
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just bends to the most noise.
ttbn,
In my experiences it was self preservation by mostly Labor bureaucrats !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 9:52:04 AM
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Indeed David. CS Lewis captured it pretty well with this, “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
Posted by jamo, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 10:56:23 AM
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Called it in one Dan!

As for elections, just one-third of us understand politics, one third, economics and the remaining 40% who understand neither and these are the folks who elect governments, decide energy policy and buy the BS writ large on the danger of new ideas and or technology.

Thus we had the Luddites attacking the spinning Jennies with crowbars in the mistaken belief that their jobs would go?

The truth has always been, mankind has always had slaves! At one time they were human slaves, then energy was harnessed and enslaved from the water wheel to the steam engine and with every new form of energy, humankind was further freed!

But now we have stopped and it's like we are in some time warp connected to the 18th century an can't progress beyond coal-fired power because there's too much special vested interest and foreigner sovereign risk?

And David, bless his political ambitions was part of that cohort?
I Quit smoking, a disgusting filthy habit over 35 years ago. And easy as, because I genuinely wanted to quit!

Those who like David, experience alleged difficulty? Just don't want to quit/enjoy it too much!

Yes I know it is an addiction and sometimes a habit harder to break than heroin! And folk of my vintage took it up when none of the considerable health risks were made public, just the opposite!

Lots of vested interest in this space! Ditto coal and therefore lots of rearguard action and BS writ large on alternative, nuclear energy!?
TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 19 February 2020 10:58:11 AM
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David: Think you may have overplayed the nanny state example here? Just because a Dr was honest enough to tell you about the health risks of a dirty, filthy habit like smoking and just how unsocial and selfish it is for smokers!

One well remembers your interaction with Sento Hansen-Young and where you were not covered in glory! Just the opposite. And instead of manning up and apologising, you just doubled down and proved beyond all doubt that you are an unmitigated R sole? All that seemed missing was a white supremacist's salute?

You could have really got up Senator Hansen-Young's nose and never needed trouble the courts or sharp Lawyers. If you had simply played the ball and not the man?

And you could have done that by being an informed advocate for unconventional nuclear power and domestic electricity of less than 3 cents PKWH! TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 19 February 2020 2:58:23 PM
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