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How much crude oil do you unknowingly eat? : Comments

By Haley Zaremba, published 12/12/2019

Even though petrochemicals are not technically (or really any other adverb you want to insert here) edible, we eat quite a lot of them.

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Yes, but one needs to be using those products medicines regularly to ingest the petrochemical products!

But given all of us consume water daily, we ingest whatever is left in it after treatment.
Some of which can be the products of smokestacks. which may include, mercury, lead, arsenic, radioactive uranium and carcinogenic cadmium

And the ash dams are often breached during storms and some of their contents washed into our water sources.

And we all now know what firefighting foam/industrial pollution has contributed to groundwater/seawater.

Some of which comes from the manufacture of solar panels as mountains of dumped toxic waste.

It's all well and good to critique petrochemicals, but in comparison to the above, of little known or proven deleterious consequences.

Moreover, what do you replace them with?

Even if we electrify the planet, we will require some petrochemicals and polymers.

And it's here we turn seawater into hydrocarbons, with cheap affordable, reliable, dispatchable nuclear energy, and with proven and field trialled technology! TBC C:>))
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 12 December 2019 10:03:46 AM
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To turn seawater into a range of alternative hydrocarbons one needs to extract the CO2 in vacuum towers and via a number of energy dependant compressions, liquefy it

Then using the catalytic water molecule cracking method separate the hydrogen from the same seawater. Then also compress that until it's liquid plasma. At which time it can be combined with the liquefied CO2 as a range of hydrocarbon replacement alternative, endlessly sustainable, liquid fuels and plastics, polymers etc.

Some of this hydrogen can be used in place of coal in steel production. And given we use arc furnaces and the one-step production paradigm invented here, produce the world's lowest costing steel with the lowest carbon footprint. To become the steel producer to the world!?

Integral to that outcome is MSR's and the use of reprocessed nuclear waste as fuel. and the removal of the current crop of abysmally ignorant, political, [die in a ditch first,] albatrosses (science-free zone) that is all that prevents any of the above from becoming our future reality! Just them, that's all! NOTHING MORE!

Can't died in a ditch over a hundred years ago. but his ugly cousin, Won't has grown into a giant and is like a Spartan on the bridge. impassible!

Won't has chained some intractable politicians who are it's ugly face here and the climate debate!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 12 December 2019 11:50:42 AM
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Petroleum products that we ingest ?

So what ?

CO2 is the basis of plants, which over many millions of years, break down and are transformed into gas, oil and coal. They're natural materials, not stone. We are all partly made up of CO2. We breathe it out all the time. Petroleum products are, to that extent, us. They are our cousins.

On the other hand, grain and vegetable products usually require fertiliser: we therefore have to eat processed fertiliser, cow-sh!t and bird-sh!t, to survive just on vegetable matter. And to top all that off, they have to be watered from rivers, in which fish have been sh!tting and shagging for millions of years. So who's the mugs ?

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Thursday, 12 December 2019 12:13:04 PM
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We are a carbon based life form. Decarbonise & we cease to exist.

Personally I am pretty glad we can synthesis a lot of things from oil, with out some of the drugs a lot of us wouldn't be around to worry about how much petroleum we may have ingested.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 12 December 2019 2:07:53 PM
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'It is widely accepted that in order to avoid catastrophic climate change, the world needs to decarbonize in a serious and urgent manner. '

straight from the website. Says it all. Life expectancy now compared to when we were 'decarbonised'. Why don't people get real job.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 12 December 2019 2:13:23 PM
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Without my petro-plastic covered meds I'd be stuffed.
Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 12 December 2019 4:09:21 PM
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