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Victoria’s native forestry ban exemplifies the lost perspective of ‘progressive’ politics : Comments

By Mark Poynter, published 14/11/2019

Australia cannot afford to needlessly trash valuable industries at the behest of fashionable causes.

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Victoria and Dopey Dan should be enough to put anyone off socialism.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 14 November 2019 11:05:25 AM
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It is only a matter of time before the next big busfire wipes out much of the Victorian forest, especially in east Gippsland, given the lack of logging and hazard reduction. Much of the wildlife, that the VIc government says it cares about, will go up in smoke too, and there will be accompanying massive carbon emissions.

Australia has some magnificent native hardwoods. The paradox is that they are becoming increasingly difficult to acquire.
Posted by Bren, Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:03:12 PM
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Indigenous natives have selectively logged their forests for millennia. Without harm to either flora or fauna!

Indeed the very opposite.

Trees are just very large very tall plants and should never be tasked almost alone with reducing atmospheric carbon.

And store carbon whether horizontal or vertical!

Locking it away stops foresters from creating the logging tracks that also double as firebreaks.

And reduces the number of vested interest eyes looking out for fire!

And on that topic, there are far better ways of managing land than with fire! Which destroys all, the non-fire-tolerant species. sends scarce valuable mineral nutrients skyward with each burn, in the smoke. To be lost forever!

And progressively bakes the ground making it more and more impervious to water/rainfall!

Fuel loads can be reduced anytime with whipper snippers or goats. And some foliage can be further reduced with camels and brumbies. And do no harm but the very opposite with rapid intensive cell grazing, or where not possible, overnight corrals that are changed fairly frequently.

The landscape can be made to hold far more water with myriad upland dams, levies and weirs. And, contours! Could if properly planned and rolled progressively out, store up to three years worth of water, in the landscape, without any recharge rain!

State forests/national parks are a significant part of the landscape that must be managed as above, with modern methods and not allowed to be occupied by firebug folk who have an agenda, i.e., an ability to claim occupation and therefore, Native title?

Feral animals need to be culled to maintain optimum numbers for fuel reduction!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 14 November 2019 12:19:11 PM
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Oh well we can all use plastic furniture. Oh, that requires oil.
Also lots of electricity to manufacture it.
Anybody got a few boxes ?
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 14 November 2019 1:06:13 PM
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Here's what the IPCC 2019 report says about forestry:

In the long term, a sustainable forest management strategy
aimed at maintaining or increasing forest carbon stocks, while
producing an annual sustained yield of timber, fibre or energy
from the forest, will generate the largest sustained mitigation
benefit.
Posted by Bernie Masters, Thursday, 14 November 2019 1:31:23 PM
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Young trees, not 2-inch seedlings store more carbon ton for ton that old growth. Trees are plants and like all plants are harvestable! Not sacred icons to be worshipped like some deity!

When we last managed our forests through selective logging and before the insanity of clear felling, we halved the trees felled and doubled the forestry jobs!

What has replaced our forestry jobs has been tourism and with that, massively accelerating house prices and accommodation costs!

And as the first visible consequence, Hobart, for example, is no longer affordable for many, including m many elderly females some of who were forced to seek shelter in a tent in the camping grounds.

It's all well and good to talk about unintended consequences, but that rhetoric doesn't change outcomes. Or the dream castle dwelling idiots who caused it!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Thursday, 14 November 2019 3:18:52 PM
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