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How abuse of violence orders corrupts our family law system : Comments

By Augusto Zimmermann, published 13/11/2019

Indeed, not everyone who applies for a restraining order is a genuine victim, just as not everyone who is subject to such an order is necessarily a perpetrator.

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If this recommendation doesn't reinforce the lawyers dog breakfast that family breakdown is, then I couldn't imagine a better way to achieve it.

There is a simpler and more fair way to go about this issue.
If a spouse is assaulted, and that assault is dealt with through the common law process of assault, that clearly produces the evidence for further use of AVO's.

At the moment, verbal abuse is cause enough for issueing an AVO. that is a major point of its weakness.
Another point of weakness is using the normal process of child discipline as reason for an AVO. Proof of child abuse should be mandatory. If a child has been assaulted by a parent, a normal course of events is sufficient; an assault charge.

AVO's are actually an excuse for lazy policing, with little to no consequence to them, and as parts of this article make clear, the accused spouse can be left to face an unfair consequence.

So the real question is: who actually gains the most from parliamentary inquiries?
Since lawyers and doctors constitute an overly large swathe of politicians, make your own guess on this question!

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 10:17:19 AM
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Assertion based on pure speculation and, par for the course, biased assumption!

And without anything remotely resembling credible evidence?

But then what would you expect from a (control freak) personality, who seriously believes that people choose their sexuality and that he and others of his intellectually challenged ilk, believe, therefore, that they have a right to persecute and discriminate against folk for the sexuality they are born with?

That said, if we were to deploy, and nothing prevents it, covertly deployed, new, space-age, unbeatable, lie detectors. We could allow the mighty irrefutable truth, decide all contested outcomes!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 13 November 2019 10:48:38 AM
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Words can be weapons and abuse! Anybody who allegedly loves someone or something, then they need to know without question, you always get more from any relationship, with TLC!

If we agree to a union, it does not and never ever confers ownership!

And children are not property to be fought over!

If we truly love and care, then in any separation there has to, must be, an amicable way to resolve or end something, if only for the innocent victims of family breakdowns, the kids.

Kids don't ask to be born nor have R soles merely masquerading as normal human beings, for a parent or parents!

And verbal abuse is still abuse, that can and does come with negative lifetime consequences for the victims of this, intellectually challenged behaviour!

Besides, for those that GENUINELY CARE, something they avoid, even if it means taking a walk around the block or using a punching bag as a punching bag instead of the wife or kids or the family pet!

Me? I'd use unbeatable new space age lie detection to establish the truth! And given there is family violence and a perpetrator? I'd take them outside and have them shot.

If only to prevent their genes to further contaminate the gene pool any more than it already is! And far more reliable than any AVO that is continually breached.

Four women die every week due to family violence and needs to be stopped!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 13 November 2019 11:11:54 AM
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Alan B you're exaggerating. Around about 50 women murdered a year in total including all those who are not victims of domestic violence. Still too many of course. I don't believe the author of the article was minimising the issue of genuine domestic violence. What he is concerned about is the misuse of our judicial system to persecute innocent people. This is a perfectly reasonable thing for a lawyer to be concerned about and indeed for anyone who is at risk of becoming a victim of a false accusation to be concerned about. I have a friend who was kicked out of his house based on the word of his Russian prostitute wife. He was rendered homeless. She then had her boyfriend/pimp move in with her and proceeded to sell all his tools (he is a tradesman). It took him weeks before he was able to get a hearing and by that time all his possessions were gone. This was a very difficult time for him and the courts had no sympathy what-so-ever for his plight. Yet they were willing to believe his wife with no evidence necessary at all.
Posted by Rhys Jones, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 2:13:41 PM
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@ Alan B, At least 6 men are murdered by women EVERY day & it needs to stop.
Posted by imacentristmoderate, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 4:38:58 PM
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To Imacentristmoderate.

Would you be so kind to give the details of that Statistic? That at least six men are killed by a woman each day. Muurder is murder, and it doesn't matter who does it to be an issue. But there is also a seperate issue of exaggerating data to suit a person's position. I see that enough times that clarification of stats needs to be asked as well.
Posted by Not_Now.Soon, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 5:08:51 PM
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