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What’s happening to our live-and-let-live culture? : Comments

By Peter Kurti, published 16/7/2019

Free speech is being closed down in the name of preventing 'hate speech'; bonds of trust in commercial life are broken; and religion is now divisive that new law is needed to protect religious freedom.

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Oh what a bunch of pious, bilious, victimhood nonsense.

The reality is the religious forces are quickly a secular, egalitarian nation into a quasi religious state.

We now have about 30% of our nations kids who attend private religious schools. We have a scheme costing over half a billion dollars a year which inserts religious figures into our public schools. And yet we have people like this claiming the world is about to end because someone gets pulled up for saying a portion of Australians are headed for hell, for how they were born.

"Dissent from the prevailing new orthodoxies about gender and sexual orientation is virtually impossible without attraction opprobrium and venom - just ask Israel Folau."

How much "opprobrium and venom" does it take for you to regard someone who is same sex attracted as deserving of eternal pain, torture and torment?

The "very language we use in civil and moral discourse begins to fragment" when we think it is okay in today's world to quote 2,000 year old scripture out of context to label, condemn, and vilify people for the way they were born.

Sanctimonious twaddle.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 10:22:03 AM
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Sorry, but this article is a load of bollocks. People do have free speech and the article demonstrates just that!

What they don't have after the SSM plebiscite, is an unfettered right to spread false or misleading belief, or harass and harangue. Nor do they have a right to discriminate against others on the basis of alternative religious belief, (Cult) ethnicity or natural, God-given, gender bias or difference.

Given this is now so? Live and let live is actually how we should live!
If people just allowed others to live their natural lives as both nature and the creator intended, there'd be a lot less social friction!

And keep your perverse filthy minds away from medical clinics where all manner of uncontroversial medical procedures are routinely performed!

You want rights and freedom? Well then, let's all have them in full abundance and guaranteed in law, with a charter of human rights written into our constitution!

As for that character Folau? He's entitled to believe in anything he wants, even the rat-bag leanings of that pagan sun worshipper Constantine. If he Folau was quoting from scripture? It's both misquoted and misinterpreted! And as such, as false as that other cult, merely masquerading as a religion, Scientology!

Simply put neither he nor you or anybody is entitled to promulgate seriously misguided (false) unproven and unprovable beliefs on any other.

Would that we had a genuine, live and let live culture, free from obsessed control freaks (Folau and cohort) pushing their load of horse sh!t on everyone else.

Moreover, ignoring (willfully blind to) their own serious shortcomings in the process! And the principal reason for such divisive, errant behaviour!? Pointing out the sty in the other man's eye, while ignoring the plank in yours! Quote, unquote.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 11:04:54 AM
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The truth of this article is proved by the mouth-foaming responses of the left-loons who shouted first.Talk about the big 'shut up' from the inarticulate!
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 11:09:39 AM
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Never mind of course that the last four paragraphs of this essay are a perfect description of the the behaviour that the TRUMP-enfuhrer promotes almost every time that he opens his mouth.

And more importantly via his copious mostly irrational toxic tweets, which certainly do not invoke, appeal to, or empower the "better angels" of the human nature of his enthusiastic supporters - quite the contrary in fact.

How many lies has he told since becoming president?
Posted by Daffy Duck, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 11:17:50 AM
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If one belongs to a cult,i.e., Folau? And one is married by that cult, i.e., Folau? Then is one not actually married in the sight of God, i.e., Folau?

Given that is so? Is not the pulpit-pounding Folau himself a fornicator and as he decided for all others, heading for hell?

Oh yes, there is a hell and as dark, dismal as the dark side of the moon and inhabited by unseen terror so terrifying as to be hugely indescribable!

So much so, being buried alive pales into insignificance!

A cult? That which massively misinterprets and misquotes "Constantine's approved biblical text" for purely political (control freak) purposes, i.e., Scientology and other self-educated splinters "Alleged Christian" groups/tribes! Like that which brainwashed and trained
(Salivating on command, [bell ringing] Pavlov's dog) Folau.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 11:53:04 AM
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The author's attempt to use his article as click-bait enticing us to read HIS "latest paper" fails to entice.

In fact help is on its way for throwback Izzy hate-speech in the form of "religious freedom" legislation that our dear PM is pushing.

Checkout http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/scott-morrison-urges-colleagues-to-avoid-another-religious-freedom-row-20190702-p523gc.html
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 1:06:25 PM
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