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The ‘True Believers’: for faith or cause? : Comments

By Greg Bondar, published 28/5/2019

Did the constant reference to 'True Believers' and 'Faith' by the major Leaders show that both parties have gone back to their roots with their slogan efforts this year?

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"... . it is the duty and responsibility of every Christian to vote and to vote for leaders who promote Christian principles".

Everybody over 18 has the "duty" to vote or be punished if they don't, in 'democratic' Australia. Further, Australian politicians are not in the habit of promoting Christian principles, and neither should they. Religious faith is a private affair. Even our Prime Minister, who claims to be a Christian because he sways about, singing and waving his arms on Sundays, left it to the media to waffle on about religion. The day that politicians start campaigning using their religiosity to appeal to voters will be the day that we dump our secular status. And, don't forget that non-Christians: Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists and beer worshipers might just find it is their "duty" vote against "Christian principles".

And this author needs to grasp the fact that fewer and fewer people identity as Christians in Australia; many Australians are downright hostile to Christianity, and our stupid immigration policy allows in too many people who have never been Christian.

Be careful what you wish for, Mr. Bondar. You might end up with an Ayatollah instead of a Prime Minister. Bringing religion into politics is very dicey indeed.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 9:26:32 AM
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I don't believe it's any of the above. It was nothing more than the same old same old BS and shovelled by the shipload.

Bill and Labor lost the plot, tried to sit on both sides of the fence on coal and were undone by a hugely disingenuous campaign by the Morrison team, inferring as they did that Labor was going to hit pensioners and their painful position on coal.

Those negatively impacted by proposed changes to negative gearing etc, such a minuscule proportion of the electorate to not have altered what the polls were predicting.

The author is clearly delusional if he believes any of the quasi-religious garbage he was promulgating. And a clearly fallacious fatuous reading/summary/analysis of the result.

The last nail in Bill's leadership coffin was hammered home by him and that video of him and a couple of his (union) mates celebrating the victory with some very premature pre-election drinks. And showed rare presumptive arrogance.

If coal-fired power is so on the nose and coal-fired power unfundable. then Labor needs another narrative that puts real mining and baseload power and the jobs in the bush that go with it, back on the table. And if it ain't nuclear power then it has to be transition gas as we head toward a nuclear powered carbon-free future. If we still have one that is?

Bob Hawke would have been all over it! But then Bob had rare vision and even rarer common sense, And even rarer intelligence in politics!

Queensland is a state were more of the population live outside the cities than those in them. And something not registering on the tiny minds conducting the Labor campaign.
Posted by Alan B., Tuesday, 28 May 2019 10:21:54 AM
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This phenomenon has nothing to do with Christianity, but is rather similar to supporting a sports team: your father supported it and so you too will support it till your last breath (and disown your children if they support the opponents).

There are some even here who will continue to support their club/party come what may, even if all its policies were reversed, even if new personalities took over, so long as the name and flag remained, even if Hitler took over as their leader.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 11:12:18 AM
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Faith and believers are products of religions, which attempt to tell their followers what to think, say, and do.
Many Australians are seeing through this ethical fiction and are applying personal thinking and rational common sense to the making of important decisions - such as to which leader they should give their gullibility.
Posted by Ponder, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 12:12:21 PM
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Ponder : keep on pondering; you might get somewhere one day.
Posted by Francis, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 12:26:45 PM
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I think the exposing of the corruption of the man made gw religion had a lot to do with the election result. Zali who was/is one of the High Priestess of the cult drives a gas guzzler, has no solar panels and preach's to others. Yep the latte sippers who have many retirees on fat Government super schemes did not care if the working man had a job or if struggling pensioners could pay the electricity bills however the true believers in a fair go saw right through the hoax. In actual fact all through Europe people are revolting against the man made gw religion pushed by the elite as they expose their total hypocrisy flying the globe while preaching to others. The Queensland Govt have had $300000 set aside for the Charlatan Al Gore to visit to give small kids nightmares. No doubt they thought he could launch the Labour parties emissions targets. Sorry Al take your filfthy lucre and go home. The people of Queensland are much smarter than the inner city elite.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 12:33:04 PM
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