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Thanks, Bob Brown, you helped Labor lose the unlosable election : Comments

By John Mikkelsen, published 22/5/2019

The pollsters got it wrong, the bookies got it wrong, the punters got it wrong the ABC and most of the mainstream media got it wrong and obviously Bill Shorten got it very wrong.

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It's all been said. The election is over. Time to move on, which would be good advice for an old battleaxe on News Radio chuntering on this morning about the "new" government reversing things regarding 'refugees', when the same government was rewarded for taking a tough stance on 'refugees and, in fact, intends to put a stop the the Nauru medivac nonsense. Some people just listen to what goes on in their heads, totally oblivious to the real world.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 9:51:43 AM
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It wouldn't take much for popular sentiment to swing the other way. Another perhaps irreversible bleaching event on the Reef will make Adani the whipping boy. According to BoM the chance of El Nino developing in the second half of 2019 is 50%. Australia's southeast is in a rainfall deficit with implications for hydro, irrigation and domestic water rationing. If it gets worse then coal will be the scapegoat. I'm not sure of the population of NQ but call it 24m vs 1m for coal support. If Adani goes ahead that's the kind of numbers that will go mental.
Posted by Taswegian, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 10:16:28 AM
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Absolutely! But this arrogant recalcitrant ecofascist will never ever admit it or take a single shred of responsibility for his ill-timed intrusion! And getup combined with Paul Keating's verbal vomit allowed a swing toward Dutton.

Recalcitrants and useful idiots like Bob Brown (Jahwol) will never ever permit it even as they march and protest about coal and coal mining'

These arrogant asinine, self-appointed rulers of the world, just don't seem to give rats for the impoverished neighbour or those in poverty elsewhere. Don't give a sh!te if Gran freezes her butt off or fries during the next heatwave, Ditto very small and helpless infants!

Protesting and saying how much you care is not worth the paper it's written on unless matched by deed and action.

Addressing climate change just too easy and not only without tanking the economy, but, massively boosting it and the prospects of every Australian into the bargain

. But that would require Bob, Bill, Tanya and, well the list would consume my word limit and then some. To get over themselves and understand, finally, it is not about them and the business as usual politics that is Deleted expletive, this country

. When with a bit of leadership and good management we could lea the world as a reliable food producer and up there with the best a high tech manufacturing destination

. Moreover, a place where every cashed up, self-funded retiree, wants to relocate to. It does need some vision and talent that is staying away in droves as those leading us are busy selling everything not nailed down, cooperative capitalism and our economic sovereignty.

Don't worry about a Chinese invasion. By the time (soon) they are big enough to challenge America as the dominant global power, they will own this country and its piss-weak (economic illiterate) pollies/new idea and science free zone!?

And I dare say, hardpressed to manage a regional council, let alone a country in economic reverse gear since the late 80's!

THINK, WE WERE ONCE THE THIRD WEALTHIEST NATION ON THE PLANET AND A CREDITOR ONE AT THAT!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 22 May 2019 11:17:39 AM
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I've read that Herr Hitler apart from having absolutely no empathy for those he persecuted and used! Was also a tree-hugging vegan? Remind you of anyone you know?

Or exhibiting the same level if not more, arrogance and distinct lack of empathy for those negatively impacted by the most asine arrogance and idiotic ideology I've seen?

. If we can agree that climate change is real and the only way to address it is to stop polluting the atmosphere with carbon!

Then GENIUS that is what we need to do and with the most affordable means at our disposal!
And that my fine feathered friends, is not a plethora of windmills or solar voltaic farms replacing trees and broadacre farms

. But rather, CLEAN, SAFE, CHEAP RELIABLE BASELOAD, DISPACTCABLE, CARBON-FREE NUCLEAR ENERGY!

And not conventional uranium, but rather, waste burning MSR and thorium. Can'tmelt down, because it is already molten and designed to very very safely operate that way and so safe it is walk away safe.

Used as waste burners able to burn and re-burn our entire nuclear waste stockpile until the half-life is reduced to just 300 years!

. The real problem with this solution is, the sovereign risk that would ensue if we had power that cost the average punter less than a cent PHWH!

THINK, power that cheap would have every high tech, energy dependant manufacturer, queuing o relocate. and indeed anyone not able to afford to pay their current energy bill.

And it would power numerous deionisation dialysis desalination plants and turn our arid regions into our most productive and cost-effective RELIABLE agricultural districts. Produce all our cotton and rice that is cost effective to grow, without ever using a single drop of Murray/Darling Basin water!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 22 May 2019 11:48:54 AM
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Good managers rationalize and downsize to contain costs and cost blowouts, rather than the very opposite. However, incompetents and corporate psychos will surround themselves with super competent assistants, blame them when they F up or hog all the kudos and congratulations when it goes the other way.

And usually target the best and brightest for their bully boy scorn before they steal their better ideas, which are invariably presented as theirs alone! And way too many heading up political parties and deciding who should get a guernsey!

Thus we get folk so far to the right as to make the national socialist party of prewar Germany, look positively benign and other incompetent to the point, they couldn't be betrusted to run a chook raffle, but cover their financial illiteracy by selling off our most profitable national industry etc.

And others further to the left than (mass murdering) Stalin.

Competent managers would find a way to max out our tax burden at just 15% and downsize government to a point where we have eliminated an absolutely unnecessary tier! And that's our state governments.

Why, there are cities in the world with larger populations than Australia, managed by a single competent council And very doable essential real reform here, if assisted by regional Autonomy.

Those displaced by this essential rationalization, would very soon find other employment in a turbocharged economy, preferably before we become a subservient Chinese possession.

As for turbocharging the economy, I refer you to the proposed tax plan and my previous comments on this thread.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 22 May 2019 12:25:19 PM
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One thing all the commentators appear to have missed entirely is the Turnbull factor. There were quite a lot returning to the fold as it were.

Although I did not vote directly for the LNP, I did let my vote filter down to them through preferences. This I most definitely would not have done, if Turnbull had still been their leader, & probably would not have done if he was still in the party. He disgusts me that much, even more than Gillard.

I know more than a few did something similar, although a number of them still had to hold their nose while doing so. Morrison will have to move a long way further from Turnbull lefty policies, if he wants another miracle next time. There will be no second coming around here, without such correction. Morrison is still on thin ice.

Taswegian we Queenslanders are much closer to the reef, obviously, but also mentally, than southerners. We have been closer to the Peter Ridd saga, & to much of the false rubbish the so called scientists at James Cook, & the rest of the reef gravy train bunch in Townsville have put out for years. While the next, "the reef is dying" because of bleaching, crown of thorns or some other overhyped bulldust may still play with greenies & ill-informed southerners, it won't wash up here, & here is where the LNP won the day. I expect many southerners are waking up to the scam being played on the reef. Just as Labor's global warming scam failed, so too will more reef is dying rubbish.

Yes Brown had an effect. We like West Ozzies are getting very sick of the entire southern population riding on our coal & iron ore for a living, while denigrating both industries. Without these exports the whole lot of them would be well into the poor white trash of the south pacific future we all face without them. Without coal we would not have the foreign exchange to import computers, so it would be by by net & OLO.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 22 May 2019 12:30:28 PM
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