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We need an ecological revolution : Comments

By John Avery, published 12/4/2019

None of us asked to be born at a time of crisis, But we have been born at such a time, and history has given us an enormous responsibility.

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There have always been always been crises throughout the ages. They have always been solved or we have learn to live with them. What we have to do is stop listening to hysterics, left wing twits like the Pope and people like this author.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 12 April 2019 8:51:18 AM
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The market forces will deal with the problem of overpopulation.

It will do this by continued sacrificing of the poor, under the wheels of neoliberal bus.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 12 April 2019 10:26:27 AM
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This bloke is proof of my growing belief that the dumbest, most easily fooled people on earth are, academics.

It is obviously true that most of them get to know more & more about less & less, until they finally know everything about stuff all, & stuff all about everything.
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 12 April 2019 11:21:56 AM
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Another clear case of rational faith in God being replaced by pseudo science and virtue signalling. Make up issues to waste money on while real issues are ignored. We might be called for such a time as this however academia have never before been so dumbed down.
Posted by runner, Friday, 12 April 2019 2:06:26 PM
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Maybe John is correct in his (necessary) calling.

The author featured on these two sites thoroughly agrees with John's calling
http://www.dabase.org/trees.htm
http://fearnomore.vision/non-human/observe-the-non-humans-and learn-from-them

As does the author of this book http://sacred-economics.com Once upon a time he was even featured on this forum.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 12 April 2019 3:16:15 PM
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We've always solved all our problems or learned to live with them. Sure and learning to live with them is done (as Diver Dan says) by running over the poor, while the rich flounder around not wanting to upset their lifestyles.

Was slavery a problem that could have been "solved" 40 years earlier? Of course, but the "everything is fine" critics at the tiime helped to maintain the status quo, so millions suffered.

We have 7.7 billion people on the earth now, increasing 80 million a year and heading toward 10 billion. Nobody thinks we can all live a sustainable lifestyle with education, medical care and a fair justice system with 7.7 billion, let alone 10 billion.

We can start making changes now as the author advocates, or we can let the bus continue running over the poor (thanks DD). But now the rich world is starting to feel the impacts. Commodity prices have increased substantially since 2000. Neoclassical economics says that prices always go down because we get smarter every year and learn to farm better, mine ores better, make energy better. But we aren't learning as fast as the laws of supply and demand dictate the prices.

Refugees are causing a nuisance, the oceans have never been dirtier, species are going extinct, Countries like India and China that are supposed to be beacons of capitalist success are so polluted years are taken off the local people's lives.

Net zero immigration and no govt benefits above 2 children would be a good start and hardly impact anyone, but the rich don't want it so the major political parties and the media don't want it.
Posted by ericc, Friday, 12 April 2019 4:25:17 PM
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