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John Gray and the malady of 21st century liberalism : Comments

By Jason Beale, published 14/11/2018

The underlying assumption is that the Western faith in reason to liberate humanity has lost its underlying authority, and now we are free-floating down the rapids, possibly towards Niagara Falls.

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First of all John Gray is not a polymath.

Secondly the situation is much worse than Gray suggests.
These two references describe the situation.
http://www.fearnomore.vision/world/integrity-of-the-whole
http://www.da-peace.org/excerpt-two-is-not-peace

Liberalism in and of itself is not the cause of the problem. The principal cause of the problem is the childish and adolescent anti-culture produced by TV.

And of the best multi-faceted descriptions/explanations of the situation we are collectively in is provided by William Irwin Thompson in his book Coming Into Being: Artifacts and Texts in the Evolution of Consciousness. The first chapter titled Our Contemporary Predicament And Our Present Evolution of Consciousness is a brilliant description of our situation. The various essays he wrote for The Wild River Review also provide a unique assessment of our collective situation - thet are introduced here:

http://www.wildriverreview.com/archives/bedtime-story-for-civilization

http://www.wildriverreview.com/archives/on-religion-part-one

Thompson
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 10:50:50 AM
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Everybody has an opinion on why those on the extreme right and so-called nationalists are winning hearts and minds with messages of unbridled unrestricted hate. As such appeals to the dark underbelly of human society.

And has its origins in the notion of greed is good individualism sometimes painted as merely aspirational. Yet as so-called individuals or dogs fighting for just one bone, lets loose our worst instincts, makes them flourish to give them full reign.

And used by Trump and other unconventional immoral self-serving activists to divide us even further. In the sure and certain knowledge that united we stand divided we fall.

As a divided world being systematically dismantled by climate change and disastrous economic paradigms of our own making! We are indeed rushing toward an allegorical Niagra falls?

We need to get back to voluntary collectivism and the greater good (cooperative capitalism) and just stop leaving our wounded/less well-off brethren behind!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 14 November 2018 10:54:29 AM
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It's what atheists are; dead in the water! The walking dead, strolling down the green mile.
Bring out the dead; the Monty Python alternative to personal fulfilment, and belief in monotheism and cultural attachments and associated loyalties.
The attack should actually be on and against atheism, and a severe one at that.
Kudos to Islam which attends to that corner well
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 10:55:11 AM
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The problem with your outdated idea Al, is there is no culture left in this country worth saving. It's now down to a war of pure ideology, as the cultural alternative.
Thank multiculturalism entirely for that one!
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 11:02:24 AM
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"The attack should actually be on and against atheism, . Kudos to Islam which attends to that corner well.
.. there is no culture left in this country worth saving. Thank multiculturalism entirely for that one!"

um..what?
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:30:58 PM
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anyone who can't see that a bunch of women wearing vagina hats screaming for their rights to murder their own children is the 'lovely ' fruit of sick failed secular dogma. No wonder they need to virtue signal through hashtags and the iidiotic irrational man made gw scam. The media love the luvvies.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 3:48:20 PM
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