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If Australia has compulsory voting, why are over 628,000 people missing from the electoral roll? : Comments

By Michelle Coxhead, published 12/11/2018

Australia is one of a relatively small club of nations that makes voting compulsory. Other countries with compulsory voting are: Brazil, Argentina, Luxembourg, and Belgium.

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Why would homeless people want to vote?

“I would argue that Australia doesn't really have compulsory voting, and that what we have is compulsory attendance at the polling booth if you're registered to vote”.

How many times have we heard that piece of useless information! They fact remains, many people are forced to muck up a Saturday by travelling to a place they don't want to be at. Semantics doesn't make them less pissed off.

How do we know that an exact number of people are not on the roll? How does this women know that young people are the opposite of apathetic - particularly if they haven't bothered to register. People we have actually heard of before tell us that many young people are not interested in democracy at all.

“And because politicians don't speak to their concerns young people feel ignored and so don't register to vote”, she says. Well, people of all ages feel the same way, and they still take the trouble to vote; it's called a 'sense of responsibility’’, something young people are often not endowed with.

We already have a ‘system of automatic updating’, but if you look at the AEC website, you will be advised that it doesn't always happen automatically! Sheesh. With a notoriously incompetent electoral commission, and even worse politicians, there is no reason for us to bother ourselves with who votes and who doesn't.

The best thing for Australia would be for a general strike by voters until the dropkicks in charge did something about the mess we are in.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 12 November 2018 7:38:41 AM
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*...The best thing for Australia would be for a general strike by voters until the dropkicks in charge did something about the mess we are in...* says ttbn.

Why should they be concerned. It's all about them, and on the most part, "they" are quite happy about apathy. The more apatheticly subdued the population, the less chance of change.
As we ride the speeding bus to eliminate the old culture, and supplant it with foreigners calling themselves Australians, the happier politicians be!

Just maybe, during one of those rare moments in our history where house prices tumble, and the minority of losers in this country turn into the majority, and the ponzy immigration schemes walk out of hiding into the light of day, the wizards of lies in Canberra might fold to the actual wishes of the people.

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/09/community-support-for-mass-immigration-collapses/
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 12 November 2018 10:26:40 AM
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The article is well researched, well thought through, Moreover, displays rare intelligence/full appreciation of substantive facts. And presents an extremely good case for automatic updating, in fact compelling.

We know young people are not engaged, why? When all they've seen for the bulk of their young lives is endless non-core promises, a conga line of pretenders in it for themselves/purely selfish, or all the wrong reasons. When they tune into question time (Echo chamber) when there's absolutely nothing else to watch, all they see are spoiled brats/divided rabble, (politicised idealogues/intractable, recalcitrant, mendacious disingenuous power junkies) with tin ears squabbling over the spoils of defeat!

Looked at from the outside, looks like an asylum where the inmates have taken over/are running the joint, mostly for powerful vested interest, to the point where the people are just numbers or slave cogs in an insane/mindless machine.

Looked at it from their perspective, why would you bother voting when all you ever get is self-serving politicians able to put personal interests/powerful vested interests/party /partisan politics ahead of the nation and its people.

Where parliaments are places where both reported corruption/revolving door leadership is the order of the day. Decided on by folk who almost to a generic man received their tertiary education on the public purse/got into the housing market when it was still a place that supported the basic human right to shelter/sanity.

Now just a madhouse, mad hatter's tea party, to serve the interest of billionaire developers and greed is good landlords?

What they don't see is the future vision that might inspire, a totally rational energy market and an economy that's made slave to the people, rather than visa versa and as a deliberate professionally managed outcome!

That being so? Why would any sane person get out of bed to go vote? To what end? So the same crowd of crooks/mendacious storytellers can sell the joint down the river/make joe average a slave to a mindless dehumanized system?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 12 November 2018 10:27:42 AM
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The discrepancy is probably due to the way the figures are compiled.
The number of those entitled to vote may include people who are not
Australian citizens who have been included on the roll through an error.
They may originally thought they could register but later realised they could not vote.
There seems to be only one way to fix this problem.
Bob Hawkes Australia Card. It got so much anti comment that he gave
up the idea.
If that card was issued at birth and was read when voting it could
automatically update the files when you moved and next voted.
It would stop multiple voting at different polling stations.
You would attend and your card would be read and if you had not
already voted would print a ballot paper there and then.
Absentee voting would be easily handled. The absentee desk would know
where you last voted and if you did not want to change the electorate
it would print a ballot paper for that electorate.

As for counting the ballot papers there is very good mark sensing
programs available.
Of course the whole thing could be on line with terminals in each booth.
If the banks can run thousands of ATMs with only minor problems then
surely a few hundred terminals and their processor could be protected.
Of course that system would not be connected to the internet.
The rsult would be known five minutes after the last polling station closed.

The advantage of compulsory voting is that many who otherwise would
not vote, when they have to go will then make a decision on who suits them best.

All the problems can be overcome in one decision and project.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 12 November 2018 12:15:21 PM
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Voluntry voting with optional preferencing would bring focus back to the needs of resident Australians.
And there's a strong argument to raise the voting age to 21 with the young being held in the indoctrination system so long now.

There's no valid argument to retain the compulsion. The excuse made to retain it's because it's maintained "stability". It's plain to see who's enjoying that "stability". And it's certainly not the common man.
Posted by jamo, Monday, 12 November 2018 12:22:25 PM
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Posted by sana2010, Monday, 12 November 2018 3:55:24 PM
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