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Jordan enclave in West Bank could be Trumpís 'two-state' solution : Comments

By David Singer, published 8/10/2018

'I've discovered that if you use labels you are not going to get very far because different people mean different things when they say states. So rather than talk about labels, I like to talk about substance'

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Agreed. I've stated this previously on twitter. Had Israel lost a single one of its three wars of survival every Jew would have been massacred. Every Arab dictatorship survives through brutality not democratic niceties. But for Israel to rule over a defeated enemy with the necessary iron security poisons both sides and is untenable. Palestinians want Israel gone and have rejected every two state offer. They view any two state solution as interim en route to Iran's fanciful goal of dismantling Israel and deporting all Jews who migrated to Israel and their descendants. Clearly Israel will never allow this.

I believe the point has been reached where Israel must offer Palestinians fair compensation to resettle with dignity in a stable Jordan or elsewhere, allowing Israel to annex the territory it won and requires with Jordan taking the rest. Egypt should incorporate Gaza.
Posted by paddo_ron, Monday, 8 October 2018 1:35:21 PM
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This is a good deal . Trump gets Jerusalem. Jordan pays for donkey-fodder with alcohol taxes for west Jordan . Israel: Control access and egress between the West Bank and Jordan,
Maintain security control for the entire area from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea,
Ensure the enclave be demilitarized and remain demilitarized.
Israel gets its army in royal land , a kingdom of Israel aimed at Baghdad , Ankara and concrete rubble mining in Syria.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 8 October 2018 2:09:55 PM
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@David

Regarding your latest Netanyahu Propaganda Wing (NPW) article:

Seems you [with your Israeli Netanyahu allegiance] want to shift greater problems of the Palestinian tragedy to Jordan and Syria.

Jordan doesn't have a great track record of looking after the Palestinians.

Take the Jordanianian slaughter of Palestinians during "Black September" 1970 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

LONGER VERSION

16 September 1970, with certain actions continuing until 17 July 1971.

RESULT [see Sidebar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September ]

PLO: 3,400 dead

Syria: 600 Syrian casualties (dead and injured)

Jordan: 537 dead

There was also an upsurge of International Terrorism eg. multiple jet Hijackings and "Munich".
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 8 October 2018 2:27:01 PM
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@David

Somehow your confusing article seems to back a Trump Solution for the Palestinians.

Trump's knee-jerk extreme right ignorance about History and Geography outside (and often inside) the USA, bodes ill for non-Americans everywhere, let alone the fate of people in the Middle East.

Where does Jared Kushner, who is Trump's son-in-law, nepotisticly appointed part-time policymaker for all Palestine-Israel matters, stand on this latest "Trump" plan?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Kushner#Senior_Advisor_to_the_President
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 8 October 2018 4:53:46 PM
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And where does David Singer stand on his Merkava tank 120 mm MG253 smoothbore gun, capable of firing LAHAT ATGM.
LAHAT is a third generation semi-active laser homing guided low-weight anti-tank guided missile developed since 1992 and manufactured by Israel .
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 8 October 2018 5:11:14 PM
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Israel's Merkava tank is certainly its main Gaza invader http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10953391/Israel-orders-preparations-for-invasion-of-Gaza.html

The Merkava's Israel specific requirements means it has virtually no export market. So it is probably the most expensive tank around - even more than Abrams M1s and Leopard IIs.
Posted by plantagenet, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 12:07:33 PM
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