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Power failure: some inconvenient renewable energy realities : Comments

By Geoff Carmody, published 30/1/2018

Stated energy policy is to deliver affordable, reliable power, with lower greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. Policy isn't delivery.

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The costly policies are NOT reducing emissions. Emissions are actually INCREASING despite the enormous cost to consumers of subsidising inefficient windmills and solar panels.

First World politicians are more stupid than they have ever been, falling for the biggest con of the century. Like all stupid people, when what they are doing does not work, they do more of it.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 9:24:43 AM
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Of course emissions increase.
Population is rocketing up at ridiculous rates.
We are doing stuff all to stop either.
Hanrahan was indeed correct.
Posted by ateday, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 9:32:58 AM
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Do wake up ateday.

We are not using any more electricity, just generating it with the wrong technology.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 11:18:05 AM
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I see this article ignores the better option of concessional loans to renewable energy generators, which would reduce both emissions and costs.

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ttbn and ateday,
What is the source of the claim that emissions are still increasing? Considering the closure of Hazelwood last year, it seems unlikely. And it is contradicted by http://www.environment.gov.au/system/files/resources/62506dca-2cb1-4613-82cd-fa46c7a0df42/files/nggi-quarterly-update-june-2017.pdf
Posted by Aidan, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 11:27:41 AM
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It is a sorry mess. Trouble is it will take up to 10 years to fix !
A clue to what is happening; a report I received shows that some
businesses that cannot go overseas are installing diesel generators
as they are cheaper to run than mains electricity !

The real problem is that politicians believe that 4 - 5 = +1.
The proof of that is that the closure of Hazlewood has surprised them
and not produced a happy result for everybody.

They do not understand that when you change the nature of energy you
lose some of it. Their waffle about batteries is an example of that.
When you fill a battery with electricity it changes into a chemical.
A loss of energy.
The battery has an internal resistance which uses electricity, a loss
When you draw electricity from it another loss.

A study was done in the UK using real time data to see how much
battery capacity would be needed to maintain the grid in typical January conditions.
The result was a shocker; 13,954 of these 129 MWh facilities costing
405 billion would have been required to back up UK wind and solar in 2016.]

http://tinyurl.com/y8aa6qhq

Yet people are still talking about batteries !
Yet we still take notice of them when they talk !
They are just ignorant, we are mad for listening to them.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 12:25:24 PM
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We need to remain focussed.

If the goal is to reduce CO2 emissions then it is not "more renewables" or Electric cars" or "Public transport" - they are secondary goals, when justified. THE goal is reduced CO2.

For that reason, I support this author's article whole-heartedly and thank him for writing it.

Unfortunately, money talks and government subsidies are more attractive than the hard work that is implied by competing in the market for a share and, hopefully, a profit. So the public teat it is and will remain until the money dries up.

Someone mentioned that emissions are decreasing. Not true. Two statistics that absolutely demonstrate that CO2 emissions are increasing are:
1. Fossil fuel consumption globally is still increasing with little sign of slackening off, apart from minor substitution of natgas for coal. Reference: Google BP Statistical Review of World Energy or any of dozens of other sources.
2. Germany's national CO2 emissions have remained flat for the past 8 years, despite all the effort and money spent on renewables. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-greenhouse-gas-emissions-and-climate-targets.
Posted by SingletonEngineer, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 2:11:16 PM
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