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Volunteers wanted - to house small modular nuclear reactors in Australia : Comments

By Noel Wauchope, published 11/12/2017

The nuclear industry is very fond of proclaiming that wastes from small thorium reactors would need safe disposal and guarding for 'only 300 years'. Just the bare 300!

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“ But oh dear– we had no idea that the search for hosting new (untested) nuclear reactors was on too! “

Oh dear, indeed. They should always consult nobodies like Ms. Wauchope. Non-South Australians would probably not know, but an 'Advertiser' survey in the last few days shows that a MAJORITY of South Australians think that citizens' panel that was foolishly consulted was WRONG in its rejection of a nuclear waste depository for the state. Wauchope and her fellow spoilers don't have a clue.

SA is going backwards fast enough without the help of idiots like this.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 11 December 2017 9:22:01 AM
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Interesting comment from an alleged GREEN implacably opposed obsessive antinuclear proponent. And alleges the reason they're banned in the U.S. Is due to some manifestly mythical safety regulations?

Not true the real reason is economic and the power of both the fossil fuel industry and big nuclear which would be both wiped out by power prices as low as $0.1.98 PKH as the median. (Professor Hargreaves, and Thorium cheaper than coal)

The alternative to coal and or gas as as load power is indubitably nuclear! No is buts or maybes!

Let's be clear, if Noel were spruiking for the FOSSIL FUEL industry or BIG NUCLEAR, this would, without question, be the central tenet of her, I believe, highly mendacious and disingenuous frivolous, vexatious argument?

If we are to have a nuclear industry and given we could now be in the cross hairs of a madman with an itchy trigger finger ICBM's armed with miniaturised warheads. What do we do appeal to his inner angel/whim and caprice?

Or, make sure we can retaliate as the only available deterrent that would or could stop a mad dictator in his tracks.

The Oak Ridge molten salt reactor operated for around five years without accident or incident! And as a walk away safe reactor that could be shut down for the weekend and restarted Monday.

Or alternatively left to percolate away for around 120 days, to prove it would, could and does self regulate!

My backyard is available now today. TBC.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 11 December 2017 9:38:20 AM
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The waste (around 1%) from a walk away safe molten salt thorium reactor is far less toxic than that produced (around 99%) by a conventional light water oxide reactor! Yet, as far as a molten salt walkaway safe, thorium reactor is concerned, just unspent fuel!

Moreover, able to be burnt and re-burnt until every erg of energy in the unspent fuel is fully spent! Leaving a far less toxic waste with a half life of just 300 years!

And this 1% still radioactive waste, can be used in long life space batteries that completely burn up with reentry!

Let's be clear, there's lots of deliberate misinformation being spread here and most of it serves the needs of the 3-4 trillion dollar a year, fossil fuel industry or big nuclear!

Let's build or assemble a few shipping container sized modules?

Make no mistake, you'd be fully protected from any residual gamma radiation by simple concrete walls!

All that prevents that is manifestly moribund government regulations that could be altered tomorrow with a few pen strokes!

To date more nuclear pollution is produced by coal and fracked gas than any nuclear plant! And if they were but constrained by the same rules and regulations as the nuclear industry? All coal and or fracked gas plants, would be shut down tomorrow! ALL, NO IF, BUTS OR MAYBES!

I promise we will not be hurt by PKH prices with a median of $0.1.98, nor the copious quantities of cancer miracle cure bismuth 2/13, we could generate with them and able to be extracted on the fly from a fully active, operational, walk away safe, molten salt, thorium reactor!

Think, 1 in 3 Australians will at some time in their life be afflicted with cancer! And you could be next in line!? YOUR KIDS OR THEIR KIDS?

Time to stop catering to the whim and caprice of the anti development de-population, (I'm all right jack) crowd and their, par for the course, massive misinformation campaign!

And if they do come from China? Completely down to the antinuclear advocates, antinuclear campaign!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 11 December 2017 10:37:27 AM
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THORIUM: energy cheaper than coal Paperback – July 25, 2012
by Robert Hargraves
Kindle
$7.92
Paperback
$25.00
11 Used from $13.00
Electricity $1.98US , 2009 prices . Maybe $ 4.29kWh , or say $6.18.
Buy Bitcoin for secure molten salt meltdown blockchain rocket electricity and AIDS cure.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 11 December 2017 11:27:34 AM
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Can I have one just to annoy Noel?
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 11 December 2017 11:52:48 AM
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As for costs, lets look at comparisons and available as peer reviewed expert input. Which Noel is not, just another bogus link dependant, anti development activist?

Driven only by the idiotic ideological imperative and to hell with the economy; and her fellow Australians?

None more so than her fellow, near bankrupt, South Australians.

Look, a 350 MW light water nuclear reactor would use 2551 tons of (as rare as platinum) fuel in its entire operatoinal life time.

Even as it consumes less the 1% of its fuel, leaving the rest (2550 tons)as toxic waste or unspent fuel?

And given fifty years to absorb/offset the entire costs, (build and fuel) able to market reticulated energy for around 6 cents per kilowatt hour, wholesale? Decommissioning costs not included?

Now compare that with thorium and in a comparative 350 MW FUJI LFTR?

Over its entire lifetime and just tasked with consuming, as common as lead, thorium! Its entire fuel inventory for its entire lifetime, is one single ton, estimated.

Why the security guard out front is likely to cost more than the fuel! And therefore a median of $0.1.98, PKH, is more than credible!

Moreover, fuel that needs no enrichment, no extremely costly containment vessel and no also expensive, special hardened building.

Just stock standard industrial and simple, poured concrete walls!

And given fluoride doesn't easily transfer neutrons. Decommissioning not too expensive nor unsafe neither.

People who know as little real relevant and up to date information as the LADY? Ought to try and talk from a little higher up!? As opposed to shovelling it by the shipload?

And then only to serve, I believe, patently puerile political or filthy fifth column, purpose?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 11 December 2017 12:06:48 PM
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