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Timely warnings about climate change : Comments

By Russell Grenning, published 11/10/2017

Many scientists managed to smoothly change tack from dire predictions of global cooling in the 1970s to global warming in the 2000s.

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Yes the sixties scientists were right!

But only if you conclude we would follow normal cyclical weather phenomena, and decided by the Great solar furnace in the sky, which was heading away from a waxing or hotter phase from about then? To a, [confirmed by sensitive satellite mounted instruments,] waning or cooler phase since the mid seventies!

Yet climate change replete with record breaking heat waves record ice melts and retreats and some wild weather that's confounding climate change denialists. Even as CO2 levels march ever upward into unprecedented uncharted territory?

Even so, there could be another explanation?

Say, Martians with large microwave assemblies, shooting heat beams from the dark side of the moon? And if it is martians and a war of the worlds? Then shovel that coal Tony?

Phew, never smelt coal like that nor seen brown coal quite that soft! And you have shiploads of it? And you want to what? Polish it?

Levity aside, we cannot go on ignoring inconvenient evidence, and just crack on with change, other sanely led countries will have no choice but follow!

And only for the massive economic advantages those changes can and will confer.

Here I am talking about the widespread adoption of carbon free nuclear power and energy prices with a predicted median of just 1,98 cents PKH.

Which will allow us to harvest CO2 directly from seawater and then utilizing the inherent heat of a nuclear reactor, combine it with hydrogen to create economically viable, alternative jet and diesel fuels, plastics and fertilizer. Just that much will absolutely ensure no displace coal miner would be unemployed for too long!

All while we generate almost costless energy for domestic and export manufacturing! And as the first consequence quite massively grow our wealth here in Oz!

And as that occurs Leave other falling behind competitors, with no other option than follow suit!

Interestingly, as CO2 is harvested/removed from seawater. The oceans almost overnight, absorb replacement amounts from the atmosphere.

And as that level comes down, so will the heatwaves and record breaking droughts/extreme weather events/turbocharged, global convection!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 11 October 2017 10:40:00 AM
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The nuclear plant will be located in Sth Australia with access to deep ocean Thorium for compression fission . Central Australian irrigation will raise cannabis and rice output .

Ocean water is 1,332 million cubic kilometers .
232Th concentrations of surface and deep Pacific Ocean waters are 0.010.02 dpm/1000 kg (60 pgm/kg). The230Th activity is 0.030.13 dpm/1000 kg in surface waters and 0.32.7 dpm/1000 kg in deep waters.
Initial production will be a couple of cub km per month rising to 10mill cub km month after Tony Abbott resigns.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 12:11:11 PM
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Obviously trusting these "me too" scientists of today, will give you about as much fact & truth as listening to the ABC.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 12:32:14 PM
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Nick you are so funny! Thorim compression is not quite as easy as compressing water?

The way to remove CO2 From water, and the way I've done it, is to run the water through a series of baffles inside a vacuum tower.

Then apply 30 inches of mercury to the top of the tower, to vacuum out all the gases that concentrate in seawater, namely, oxygen and CO2, the latter seeming to have a symbiotic relationship with water.

And because the reactor gives flameless heat, ideal for catalytically assisted cracking of the water molecule.

Separate out and use the hydrogen, e.g., as a compressed alternative fuel that will run conventional combustion engines and where the addition to injected water into the combustion chamber, with every sixth compression stroke, increases both range and performance!

And eliminates the energy sucking and performance reducing radiator, plus pumps and what have you, from the combustion cycle.

Or combine hydrogen with harvested CO2 to create almost any hydrocarbon we need!

All manner of plastic products,fuels and or fertilizers!

And just where a nuclear powered economy starts.

I think it's better to be a me too scientist that other credentialed scientists used as their preferred referee, when they were in conflict.

And given my reputation for near perfect results!

Automatically accepted my decisions, particularly when accurately repeated tests were able to be replicated in triplicate!

And as such, demonstrably better than a washed out Hasbeen, patently reduced to endlessly bagging or tearing down, sight unseen, what he can't follow or understand? And the probable reason for a history as long as your arm for endlessly repeated failure?

Incidentally there's a method of converting thermal coal to diesel. Abandoned after a short trial, given the energy, thermodynamics and cost factors, required to create the requisite heat!

And something we might consider, in a nuclear powered future, as long as we and others require some diesel for any purpose, not able to be easily transitioned to electrics?

You'll have a nice day now y'hear.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 11 October 2017 1:57:43 PM
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I know all of that Alan . Vacuum pumping is what the Pacific Ocean has needed since plastics were pumped out . Car radiators at 1085degrees melting will be gone when hydrogen burns at 2100 degrees.
Thorium car-panels will resist compression in accidents and even H2gas bottle detonations.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 2:35:20 PM
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South Australia: according to nnn and AB, The future Ra.

"And one common rainbow flag, replacing the Union Jack, flying proudly over rice paddys and Chinese peasants, in cone grass hats, and far in the distance occupying their proud position on the horizon, familiar shapes against the ever blue sky, the grey humps of thorium reactors, churn out endless electricity, captured by tornado proof transmission towers, lined up like soldiers on a route march, heading towards Victoria for conversion into Chinese Renminbi and another "sorry" for the evil actions of our forefathers, and the White Australia policy; just as a bonus for being a nice little Chinaman, and saving us from ourselves".

Amen
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 2:41:28 PM
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Radiotherapy treatment can affect your skin making it go red or darker and is used in SUV hydrogen solar burners.
A single gram of radium Ra 226 will produce 0.000l milliliters of radon a day. Radium is about one million times more active than uranium.
First, I am so thankful for this site. I have been lurking here since my mother's diagnosis in December. Mom has made it through her chemo - radiation - chemo cycle and now has severe pain from the radiation burns. She had her last rad. treatment a week ago tomorrow. She has open areas from the blisters and swelling.
My question: what worked/is working for your radiation burns?
Thanks!
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 2:58:40 PM
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thankfully more and more have woken up to the man made gw myth. Pity Rudd, Gillard and Turnbull have stuffed Australia's cheap and reliable energy supply due to there false religion. They really should be tried for treason. Why China and India would want to send their kids here to be so dumbed down beats me. Imagine the kids end up as dumbed down as the getup clowns.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 2:59:19 PM
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I found this all a mite strange, Alan B banging on about thorium as usual but Nick and Alan then start babbling rather than addressing what is the groundswell of dissent.
Call Abbot a maniac and babble? Is that it lads? No arguments now? Oh yes the science is settled? Well it never was and it is all going to become unraveled.
You will find this truth tsunami will engulf a lot of people over the coming years and we will be enjoying coal fired power very soon too.
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 4:18:08 PM
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I've always been struck by Mr Abbott who has the Economic and Theology good-sense not to vacuum pump the Pacific. As carbonic acid density is 1.67 to sea-water 1.02 the AGW keeps him floating.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 4:29:44 PM
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Casting pearls? Oink oink?

Anyhow, anyone who actually believes we can simply ignore current climate change, even though we should be well into a normal cyclical ice age of indeterminate length, has to have manure for brains?

Even if we finally stop burying the head and just look rationally at the options?

And obviously outside the abilities of Nick, Has, Runner and dear old diver? Who seems to think this is somehow connected to SSM!? All that huffing and puffing would likely power a wind farm?

Look, thorium is the most energy dense material on the planet! just not as dense as any of the aforementioned?

Were I to step outside my door and fill a one cubic metre box with dirt. I'd be able to recover around 8 grams of thorium, at a recovery cost of around $100.00.

8 grams burnt in a walk away safe, molten salt thorium reactor enough to power my house and car for 100 years!

That's just a dollar a year!

8 grams of coal wouldn't even cook dinner, stupid!

Moreover, the only thing preventing R+D at no cost to the taxpayer, is ratbag regulations that make any such endeavour verboten! Jawohl?

There's a place for coal and that is in affordable steel and aluminum smelting, plus synthetic diesel manufacture from coal? Or seawater!

Thanks solely to power prices of a predicted 1.98ents PKH.

We can even beat hydro for aluminum smelting, because the walkaway safe reactor and the smelter can very safely, operate side by side. To remove the transmission and distribution losses associated with, [more expensive,] hydro!

I don't care if a few recalcitrant imbeciles don't get any of that?

They not the ones making the diabolically dumb decisions or writing, [shoot yourself in your own economic foot,] risible regulations!

And confounded by objective observation and irrefutable science, reduced to elder abuse and name calling?

Whats next boys, a bonfire of burnt books?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 11 October 2017 5:13:51 PM
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We should just get on with building Nuclear Power Stations.

That will upset the Green petals and solve our energy problems at the same time.

It's a pity our politicians are gutless wonders !
Posted by Aspley, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 5:32:16 PM
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Radium Nick? What planet are you living on? We don't make or use that stuff anymore in civvy street?

As for your Mum? If she is genuinely ill? Though even if she was, you likely be able to find a way to turn a death sentence cancer like pancreatic cancer or some really nasty brain cancers or leukemia into psycho babble?

Me? I'd want to get busy busy and around the clock build, of a walk away safe, molten salt thorium reactor, then when completely safe to do so, fire it up to create then extract on the fly, some bismuth 213.

We'd likely need a couple of months to produce useful quantities

An alpha particle nuclear isotope that is nothing short of a miracle cure for some, even with just hours to live!

And if that were the only reason to build s couple. I'd want one within twenty minutes by chopper, from every major hospital!

Bismuth 213 is attached to antibodies which then search for cancer cells and destroy them.

Q: How many deaths directly attributable to climate change is acceptable? Tony, John, Cory, Pauline? 160 million? A billion? Two billion? Seven?

That's just got to be grist for the mill for Nick's psycho babble? Deep flied humorress clap?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 11 October 2017 5:49:43 PM
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I have never seen so much stupidity and waffle before? Looks like this is the only answer to the exposure of the climate scam but lads you are going to have to do better you know?
Posted by JBowyer, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 6:23:21 PM
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JBower..

AlanB and nickname nick are one and the same...part of the trinity inclusive of the now retired Rhosty of old....all part of the personality disorder....
Posted by diver dan, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 7:32:43 PM
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anyone got any ice?....as in ice cubes
Posted by ilmessaggio, Thursday, 12 October 2017 3:21:16 AM
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Insane fellow Australians,
Alan :
"Separate out and use the hydrogen, that will run conventional combustion engines ..And eliminates the energy sucking and performance reducing radiator, "

The temperature goes from 230 degrees for petrol to 2100 degrees for hydrogen. Hydrogen is hotter . The engine needs more cooling. Cooling makes it cooler. A radiator is needed. It can't be eliminated .

Diver dan :
"The future Ra."
Ra is the symbol for Radium. So I wrote about Radium .

"And one common rainbow flag, replacing the Union Jack, .., familiar shapes against the ever blue sky, the grey humps of thorium reactors,..and the White Australia policy; just as a bonus for being a nice little Chinaman, and saving us from ourselves".
Amen"

Diver dan is resting comfortably with some hand twitching and random vocalising.
Posted by nicknamenick, Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:39:34 PM
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JBowyer writes:
Oh yes the science is settled? Well it never was and it is all going to become unraveled.

But will the warmunists ever concede? Unlikely.

But just since the turn of the century weve released about 34% of all the CO2 man has produced, so youd think wed see something by now.

So, since ~ 2000:
CO2 - up.
Warming - stopped.

Game over.
Thanks for playing.
Posted by Dustin, Thursday, 12 October 2017 5:52:15 PM
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